Episode 15
Harry Potter and the Chamber Of Secrets Chapters 16-18: Fawkes v. Ginny
Kevin, Chantae, CJ and Natasha are back to wrap up book 2, Harry Potter and The Chamber of Secrets.
They talk about the central theme of this podcast episode revolves around the intricate dynamics of loyalty, choice, and the moral implications of actions taken within the narrative of the Harry Potter series, particularly in relation to the character of Ginny Weasley and the basilisk. We explore the profound consequences of manipulation and the loss of agency, as exemplified by Ginny's experience with Tom Riddle's diary, which ultimately leads her into perilous circumstances. This discussion prompts a broader examination of the nature of good and evil within the wizarding world, as well as the varying degrees of culpability associated with characters like the basilisk, who acts out of instinct rather than malice. Throughout our discourse, we also delve into the pivotal role of loyalty, as embodied by Harry and his companions, and how their actions culminate in significant outcomes for themselves and others. As we conclude this episode, we underscore the importance of understanding these themes in shaping our interpretations of the narrative and its characters.
Kevin, Chantae, CJ and Natasha are back to wrap up book 2, Harry Potter and
Transcript
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Speaker A:But from our perspective.
Speaker A:I'm your host, Kevin G.
Speaker A:And I'm here with cj, Chante, and Natasha.
Speaker A:What is going on, guys?
Speaker B:What up?
Speaker A:Hello.
Speaker A:What's going on, guys?
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Speaker A:We are here at the end of this book.
Speaker A:It has been a long journey.
Speaker A:We have come to the end of the road, policeman style.
Speaker A:I can definitely.
Speaker A:You can.
Speaker A:Okay, so it's an interesting situation while we wrap up the end of this book.
Speaker A:I mean, you know, we've seen the best of times, we've seen the worst of times.
Speaker A:You know, I'm saying that's what.
Speaker A:That's how I feel like with the Chamber of Secrets.
Speaker A:And I'm really, really ready to exit from the Chamber.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:Because I feel like the series just, like, picks up.
Speaker C:It does.
Speaker A:It picks up from here.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker C:Even though this is one of the thinner books.
Speaker C:It could have been thinner.
Speaker A:Damn.
Speaker B:There's so much fluff in between, like, events, and it's just like time passing.
Speaker B:So, you know, not even side passing passing.
Speaker C:Or is it world building, time passing?
Speaker B:It.
Speaker B:It is world building.
Speaker B:As I've talked about, this one suffers from the Thor dark world problem of you got to build up other shit.
Speaker B:But there's also just them.
Speaker B:Like, it's the Game of Thrones.
Speaker B:Elegant people talking in rooms where you just have a lot of just exposition.
Speaker C:Very exposition heavy.
Speaker C:Even his Denoma with Tom Riddle is very exposition heavy.
Speaker D:Yes, y'all get on my nerves.
Speaker D:But wait, I have a question.
Speaker D:I have not seen Thor Dark World, so I'm not understanding the parallel of what you're saying here.
Speaker A:So Thor, the Dark World is trash.
Speaker A:Yeah, the sec.
Speaker A:It's the worst MCU movies of all the MCU movies.
Speaker C:This Love and Thunder one might be the worst for me.
Speaker B:No, not even close.
Speaker B:That worst three MCU movies, in no particular order, are Thor, the Dark World, Hulk Witch Hulk, and Avengers Agent Hulk with Incredible.
Speaker B:No, not that one.
Speaker B:That's not an MCU movie.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah, that one.
Speaker A:Oh, that one.
Speaker B:Yeah, that one.
Speaker B:That one.
Speaker B:Not the Eric Bana one.
Speaker B:Eric Bana one is not an MCU movie.
Speaker B:The Edward Norton one is an MCU movie.
Speaker B:That one is one of the worst three MCU movies.
Speaker B:Along with Thor, Dark World, and Avengers.
Speaker B:Age of Ultron.
Speaker B:Those are the three worst MCU movies.
Speaker C:I hated the way they did Quicksilver in that one, but I didn't hate it.
Speaker D:I liked Age of Ultron.
Speaker B:That's funny.
Speaker B:Okay, because there's.
Speaker B:There's still bottom three MCU movies, which tells you how strong the MCU is.
Speaker B:When you guys are like, wait, Age of Ultron, Isn't that.
Speaker C:Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Speaker C:What about the Ant Man Multiverse?
Speaker C:What was it?
Speaker A:Quantumania is not.
Speaker D:I haven't seen either of those.
Speaker C:Come on.
Speaker A:No, no, no, no, no.
Speaker B:So I take.
Speaker B:Let me preface that and say this is all of the Infinity Saga, because when you come out of the Infinity Saga, Eternals is definitely up there.
Speaker C:I was going to say, like, there's so many others, like, but you're talking about just the Infinity Saga.
Speaker D:I think we wanted a lot from Eternals.
Speaker D:Got you.
Speaker D:Okay.
Speaker D:All right, guys, go ahead.
Speaker A:I'm sorry, for me, at the.
Speaker A:At the.
Speaker A:The bottom of my list is the ones he said I would also throw in the original Thor and Iron man two.
Speaker A:I'm just being honest.
Speaker A:Iron man two is not very good either.
Speaker C:Iron manoff.
Speaker A:Yeah, but, like, whiplashes.
Speaker A:Whiplash.
Speaker A:Super weak.
Speaker C:I don't disagree.
Speaker B:So here's the thing is, like, you talk about them not being top MCU movies.
Speaker B:It doesn't mean they're bad movies, but.
Speaker D:It'S just the scheme of things.
Speaker B:But Thor, Dark World, and Hulk were bad movies.
Speaker C:I feel like Iron Man 3 drag.
Speaker B:No, man.
Speaker B:Iron Man 3 is the best Christmas movie.
Speaker C:I agree.
Speaker C:It's a great Christmas movie.
Speaker C:I do feel like that one was actually kind of long, like, Die Hard exposition feel just like this.
Speaker C:But book Iron Man 3 was.
Speaker D:And my point, and why I said y'all get on my goddamn nerves, is that it is a book.
Speaker D:If you cannot provide 50 pages of exposition in minute detail in a book, where else can you do it?
Speaker D:You can't do it on a TV show.
Speaker D:You can't do it in a movie theater.
Speaker D:But these lovely moldy books, this is where we get exposition.
Speaker D:And, like, the colors of, like, paint on the walls, you know, and.
Speaker D:And like Tom Riddle talking about, you know, his background.
Speaker B:Like, can I tell you why this shouldn't be an exposition?
Speaker B:The reason why this shouldn't be an exposition is because this is a kid's book.
Speaker B:You should be getting from point A to point B as quickly as possible, because the readers.
Speaker C:Books are pretty jump on to that.
Speaker D:And you know what?
Speaker C:They were even younger than what C.J.
Speaker C:just said.
Speaker C:There are wonderful genres that are all about paint drying, and this isn't one of them.
Speaker C:And there are authors who are able to use exposition to move a story along in a way that doesn't drag the story.
Speaker C:And in this instance, I don't believe that was accomplished here.
Speaker D:So this is the difference between you guys reading this.
Speaker D:Yeah, this is between you guys reading this for the first time as adults versus, like, someone like me who started reading this when I was still in high school and other kids as well.
Speaker D:The kids who were into it were into it.
Speaker D:And one of the reasons why Harry Potter, like, if you kind of research, they say it really was a resurgence of kids reading more, was because they were locked in every page, every paint dry, every background piece.
Speaker D:They were happy with it and into it.
Speaker D:And it shows because as the books came along, the readership grew, you know, increasingly with it.
Speaker D:Why dumb it down for the kids if you can?
Speaker D:They're not big words.
Speaker D:It's just extra words.
Speaker D:She didn't raise the level of reading.
Speaker D:She just gave more detail, I guess you would say.
Speaker D:But reading this as a high schooler, I wasn't upset.
Speaker C:I read these books younger than you.
Speaker C:Than you were when you first read these books?
Speaker D:No, I was in high school.
Speaker A:I read this at the age of, like, nine.
Speaker D:No, you said you guys read them at the end.
Speaker D:Or was it cj?
Speaker C:Maybe it was just cj.
Speaker B:I read them.
Speaker D:Okay, Maybe it was just cj.
Speaker D:I remember somebody was an adult, and I was like, no.
Speaker A:But here's the thing.
Speaker C:You.
Speaker B:You talk about, like, it made kids read.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Thor, the Dark World was still profitable.
Speaker B:It made $85 million opening weekend.
Speaker B:Like, it could still be, you know, the worst of a solid franchise.
Speaker B:It still serves the purpose.
Speaker B:I'm not saying that the book sucks.
Speaker B:I'm saying that it's the worst of the seven.
Speaker A:But wait, I want to first and foremost say that.
Speaker A:Put some respect on Scholastic Pizza Party at Pizza Hut, because that makes kids read.
Speaker A:Okay, I don't want to hear this.
Speaker A:Those personal pizzas getting the free pizza made me read.
Speaker A:I know.
Speaker A:That's for damn sure.
Speaker A:So don't.
Speaker A:Don't sleep on that.
Speaker A:Kids were reading to get them pizzas.
Speaker A:So do y'all remember when you could.
Speaker D:Play pool and, like, eat your personal pan pizza?
Speaker C:Yes, yes.
Speaker C:And to.
Speaker C:And to put some respect on authorship, like, again, this isn't a bad book.
Speaker C:Obviously.
Speaker C:Like I.
Speaker C:I told you in the beginning, I read this book first and was like, yes, I want more.
Speaker C:And like had to go back and read the first book, you know, so it's not like it was bad, but there is a way to have exposition.
Speaker C:For instance, the Percy Jackson series, very exposition heavy, however, in a way that keeps the story flowing and doesn't drag.
Speaker C:And this book didn't do that.
Speaker A:Hold on, Natasha.
Speaker A:What is the worst of the seven books then?
Speaker A:Because the one of them has to be the worst.
Speaker A:Oh.
Speaker D:So for me, the worst of the seven, for me personally is more so about the dialogue in it.
Speaker D:And it is five because I'm just sick the fuck of Harry whining the entire book.
Speaker A:Interesting.
Speaker D:I'm like, put him in a ditch and make him shut up.
Speaker D:So that's my worst of the series.
Speaker B:And it's funny that you say that because I think five is the toughest read, but I don't think it's the worst book.
Speaker A:I feel like two is the worst book of the seven.
Speaker A:Just like C.J.
Speaker A:was saying, Thor, the Dark World is the worst MCU movie.
Speaker A:No one's saying it's the worst movie, like of all time, but is not great.
Speaker A:But is also the worst of the mcu, which is where the barometer is.
Speaker A:And so of these seven books, for sure, this to me is the worst of the seven books.
Speaker A:It's by far the worst of the movies.
Speaker A:And what's going on, five is the worst movies in terms of what's left out.
Speaker A:But it is the worst though of the seven books to me.
Speaker A:And so like when we're.
Speaker A:When we're crapping on it and things that I'm crapping, like I said, she gets way better in terms of like having the books get long.
Speaker A:She has more.
Speaker C:She literally adds more exposition and it's better to read.
Speaker C:So that's kind of goes to the point, like, I think.
Speaker C:And that's not a knock at her either.
Speaker C:She was kind of starting the series, working on becoming an author, building her authorship.
Speaker C:This one fumbled a little bit, but she learned and got better.
Speaker A:In addition, this is also early in the, like you were saying, the world building.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:None of these.
Speaker A:The major stakes have not come down the pike yet.
Speaker D:Correct.
Speaker A:So this is none of the major.
Speaker A:Same thing with, with us as we're doing this.
Speaker A:We've been doing this show now for quite a few episodes.
Speaker A:We were talking about.
Speaker A:We're doing like, we were doing like a Versus thing.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:We.
Speaker A:That's where we started when we were doing it.
Speaker A:And then we, as we've been Going on.
Speaker A:We're like, there's not a lot here.
Speaker A:Because there's not a lot here.
Speaker A:So let's get to wait till we get a little deeper.
Speaker A:Let's pivot and go a little deeper.
Speaker A:And we're doing that.
Speaker A:We're going a little deeper because, like, tonight we have a.
Speaker A:We have a beautiful battle tonight.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:But it was.
Speaker A:Because we're able to get more.
Speaker D:If you don't.
Speaker C:I don't know.
Speaker C:Would we say funny?
Speaker D:We would say outlandish, even.
Speaker D:But.
Speaker A:Well, with that being said, let's jump into these chapters because we're here to wrap up last week.
Speaker A:Last week, we dealt with Aragog, and we dealt with Hagrid getting locked up and sent to Azkaban and whatnot.
Speaker A:Here we are.
Speaker A:We're wrapping up the book starting here in the Chamber of Secrets.
Speaker A:Take it away, Shantan.
Speaker C:All right, so we're not in the Chamber of Secrets yet, but Ron pretty much starts saying exactly what we said last time.
Speaker C:They should have been talking to Moaning Myrtle that whole time.
Speaker C:They could have been talking to her way back in Halloween, and we wouldn't have to go through all these other things.
Speaker C:Like, they wouldn't even have to go out to Aragog and almost get killed.
Speaker C:They could have just talked to Myrtle and been like, oh, you mean it's over there?
Speaker B:Thanks.
Speaker C:Awesome.
Speaker C:But they finally realize they need to talk to her.
Speaker C:However, with all the chaperoning and walking around, it's been hard to get to her.
Speaker C:So they have to figure out a way to get her in.
Speaker C:And while they're trying to figure it out, McG comes in and she gives an announcement that they're going to have their exams coming up.
Speaker C:Of course, everyone's like, wow, we have exams?
Speaker C:Like, with all this stuff going on.
Speaker C:And she said something hilarious to me.
Speaker C:She said, if we gotta stay open to justify ourselves staying open, we need y'all to show that you are actually learning while you're terrified for your lies.
Speaker C:That was, as an educator, was hilarious.
Speaker A:Well, I thought it was also hilarious that she says, I have an announcement.
Speaker A:And we hear my guy Oliver would say, yeah, is Quidditch back?
Speaker A:Because he knows that he needs those back on.
Speaker C:Oliver needs to go to Gamblers Anonymous.
Speaker D:Problem.
Speaker C:So, yeah, all the kids are like, yeah, we're afraid of dying.
Speaker C:Don't test us.
Speaker C:And was like, nah, we gotta justify ourselves being here.
Speaker C:Other clothes are asses.
Speaker C:So now everyone's worried about exams, too.
Speaker C:So as they're trying to figure out a way to.
Speaker C:To get in it's been, like, a couple of days and they still have not talked to Moaning Myrtle.
Speaker C:I'm like, this is kind of urgent.
Speaker C:Y'all need to.
Speaker C:You have an invisibility cloak?
Speaker C:Why.
Speaker C:Why haven't you not used it?
Speaker C:Like, just sneak out everything else.
Speaker A:We can't break away from these chaperones.
Speaker A:If only we had a theme that could keep us invisible.
Speaker B:If only Hermione was there to remind them of invisible clo.
Speaker C:Why are you leaving like that?
Speaker B:Speaking of sleeping on the job.
Speaker C:Petrified on the job.
Speaker C:Speaking of her, McGonagall also announces that the Mandrakes are grown up so they're ready to be killed and boiled into a potion.
Speaker A:Imagine that, right?
Speaker A:Your whole life.
Speaker A:Your whole life, you're only.
Speaker A:You're only being born to eventually be slaughtered to make someone else be unpetrified.
Speaker D:Isn't that what all vegetables do, though?
Speaker D:We raise and cultivate the vegetables.
Speaker A:They don't become alive, though.
Speaker A:They don't become alive like these Mandrakes.
Speaker C:Well, I mean, they are just not alive in the way that we're alive.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Anyways, let's move on.
Speaker C:So they decide, all right, we gotta find a way to get into the bathroom.
Speaker C:And as they're discussing, Jenny Weasley comes up and she's like, okay, guys, I gotta tell you, I gotta talk to you about something.
Speaker C:And so they're like, okay, spit it out.
Speaker C:She's like.
Speaker C:She quibbles.
Speaker C:Can't get it out.
Speaker C:I'm, like, wasting time.
Speaker C:Jenny, just tell them.
Speaker C:She's a.
Speaker C:Whatever.
Speaker C:Whatever.
Speaker C:You guys act like she was writing all up in that diary.
Speaker C:She got words.
Speaker C:She needs to use them.
Speaker C:She didn't use them.
Speaker C:Percy shows up and is like, oh, Jenny, I just got off my shift.
Speaker C:Get out of that chair.
Speaker C:I'm gonna sit down.
Speaker C:Which is like, why you just push her out the chair.
Speaker C:But whatever.
Speaker C:And she sees Percy, panics and runs off and they say, hey, she's about to tell us something.
Speaker C:And then Percy looks suspicious and he goes, it was nothing.
Speaker C:It was nothing.
Speaker C:Don't worry about it.
Speaker C:Forget it.
Speaker C:And they're like, what?
Speaker C:What is that all about?
Speaker C:But anyways, Percy shuts them out, and we go on.
Speaker C:So they decide the next time they're with Gilderoy they're going to trick him into letting him in the bathroom because he's the stupid one.
Speaker C:And as he's escorting them to their History of Magic class they convince him that he shouldn't do it.
Speaker C:I guess something's wrong with his hair because he doesn't have time to do it because they're making him do patrols and stuff.
Speaker C:So, like, oh, you don't.
Speaker C:We're old.
Speaker C:You don't need to.
Speaker C:To escort us around.
Speaker C:You should probably go.
Speaker C:I don't know, set your weave or whatever.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:So he agrees and lets them go off by themselves.
Speaker C:And they immediately start heading toward Myrtle's bathroom, but they run into McGonagall instead.
Speaker C:So they're like, oh, dang, McGonagall's not stupid.
Speaker C:What do we do?
Speaker C:So they were like, oh, yeah, we were trying to go to the hospital wing because we haven't seen Hermione.
Speaker C:They won't let us.
Speaker C:Emma Gonegal, the professor with the heart of gold, she gets choked up because it's.
Speaker C:It's crazy.
Speaker C:These are her students and they're Petrified.
Speaker C:They could have died.
Speaker C:And she realizes she knows how close Ron, Hermione and Harry are.
Speaker C:That's why she called them over to when Hermione got Petrified.
Speaker C:So she gives them special permission to go to a hospital wing.
Speaker A:Hold on.
Speaker A:So this is interesting because she asked them.
Speaker A:As they sneak away from Lockhart, they get to McGonagall, and immediately she's like, what are y'all doing here?
Speaker A:And Ron immediately is like.
Speaker A:And quickly Harry's like, we're gonna go see Hermione.
Speaker A:Even here, Ron can't come through with a lie in the situation.
Speaker A:I feel like this is a theme of these three chapters.
Speaker A:Go on, Shantae.
Speaker C:Are we keeping track of all the times Ron fails or have we run out of space?
Speaker C:I wish.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:I wish.
Speaker C:Yet again.
Speaker C:Add one to the tally.
Speaker A:Is this.
Speaker B:Is this the most useless Ron has been since he forgot that his brother worked with dragons when they needed to get rid of a dragon?
Speaker C:Maybe.
Speaker C:Maybe.
Speaker C:Possibly.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah, possibly.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Remember that time, though?
Speaker A:See?
Speaker A:Remember that time he played wizard chess?
Speaker C:He did play wizard chess.
Speaker A:He played wizard chess, though.
Speaker D:Y'all gonna leave Ronald?
Speaker A:I know.
Speaker A:Natasha also remembers when he played wizard chess.
Speaker B:And the deeper we get in the books, the more Natasha's gonna be bringing it up.
Speaker C:Remember when Ron forgot that there were things like flu powder or letters or something so that he didn't have to steal a car to drive to school?
Speaker C:Remember that?
Speaker C:Remember?
Speaker C:Okay, we'll just keep that selective memory.
Speaker C:So they go to the hospital wing.
Speaker C:Palm Tree's not happy, but they got special permission from McGonagall.
Speaker C:And they sit with Hermione and they start talking to her and palm free, like, here.
Speaker C:I was like, dang, she kind of salty because they were trying to talk to her.
Speaker C:She's like, what's the use of talking to a petrified person?
Speaker C:I was like, back the off.
Speaker A:Listen, we have rules right now in place, Shantay.
Speaker A:It's a moratorium.
Speaker A:No one can go anywhere.
Speaker A:This is what we've been told.
Speaker A:And then they.
Speaker C:These two little boys, their friend don't talk to her.
Speaker C:Who gives a.
Speaker C:She can't hear you anyway.
Speaker C:What the you doing here?
Speaker C:Like, what?
Speaker C:That was uncalled.
Speaker A:Ps not letting nobody talk to people in a coma.
Speaker C:Yeah, she's not nobody.
Speaker C:Why she don't want nobody up in there.
Speaker C:What else you doing in there, palm free?
Speaker C:You making moonshine or some?
Speaker C:You got a lot of chemicals and time and space and people don't be coming in like, what's going on?
Speaker C:Something going on.
Speaker C:Someone needs to investigate.
Speaker C:Pomfret.
Speaker C:Somebody call Arthur Weasley.
Speaker C:Anyways, so they look.
Speaker C:Harry notices that Hermione has something in her hand.
Speaker C:And so Ron covers for him as he tries to pry it out.
Speaker C:And what he pulls out is a paper that says the creature that's been all over the place was a basilisk.
Speaker C:And she also put in that the reason it's been getting all over is because of the pipes.
Speaker C:Now, I don't want to jump ahead, but at the end of this chapter when Hermione comes up, she goes, you figured it out.
Speaker C:You figured it out.
Speaker C:I'm like, what is there to figure out?
Speaker C:Hermione, you told them what it was like.
Speaker C:I'm just, whatever.
Speaker C:And just keep in mind, by this point, she has been petrified for weeks.
Speaker C:So they did not have to go.
Speaker C:Another instance of them not having to go almost get killed by Aragog and his children if they had just, I don't know, care enough to go try to visit their friend before.
Speaker C:They only got there accidentally crazy.
Speaker C:Anyway, so the basilisk fix fits everything.
Speaker C:The spiders flee from it.
Speaker C:The rooster crows, kills.
Speaker C:It's all these dead roosters.
Speaker C:So they're like, oh, dang, it is a basilisk.
Speaker C:And now they're like, we got to get to Moaning Myrtle's bathroom.
Speaker C:Because they still have not talked to Moaning Myrtle.
Speaker C:So ridiculous.
Speaker C:I don't understand.
Speaker C:I don't understand how they haven't talked.
Speaker C:So they're like, hey, what should we do?
Speaker C:We need to tell someone about this.
Speaker C:They decide to tell McGonagall, right?
Speaker C:And they're going to go wait for her in the teacher's lounge because it's almost a break for the teachers.
Speaker C:So they take this Information.
Speaker C:They rush to the teacher's lounge.
Speaker C:And as they're waiting for her, there's an announcement.
Speaker C:All the kids have to get sent back to their room.
Speaker C:And the staff needs to come into the staff lounge.
Speaker C:They're like, dang, should we leave?
Speaker C:And Harry's like, nah, we're going to stay here and hide.
Speaker C:So they hide in the closet.
Speaker C:And they listen.
Speaker C:And they learn that the creature has taken someone down to the Chamber of Secrets.
Speaker C:And they've written a new message saying her bones will lie in the Chamber forever.
Speaker C:And they learn that the person taken is Jenny Weasley.
Speaker C:Oh, no.
Speaker C:Soccer.
Speaker C:How.
Speaker C:How could it be her?
Speaker C:Did we see that coming?
Speaker C:I think.
Speaker C:I think we may have seen that coming.
Speaker B:This is all Percy's fault.
Speaker B:If Percy hadn't been so hungry and demanded that one seat, like there aren't open seats.
Speaker B:Down, up and down the table.
Speaker B:She would have spoke up earlier.
Speaker C:But she has.
Speaker C:I don't know, she had plenty of opportunities.
Speaker A:Jenny comes to tell him about it when Jenny comes to tell them about it.
Speaker A:And she's like, I got something to say.
Speaker A:Then Percy walks up, I.
Speaker A:And he's like, oh, no, no, no, no.
Speaker A:She saw something she shouldn't have seen.
Speaker A:I was like, she saw him fucking.
Speaker C:We already found out back at Christmas why Percy and that Ravenclaw precept were down in the Slytherin dungeons.
Speaker C:Like, we already knew that.
Speaker A:Listen, he was Slytherin in.
Speaker A:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:Yeah, he was slithering in anyway.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:Either way, though, so right here, when Percy didn't do this, Jenny now gets taken.
Speaker A:And I like though how they're like, oh, man, I think she did know something about the.
Speaker A:The Chamber.
Speaker A:They took her.
Speaker C:That's why she knew something.
Speaker C:Yeah, dude, yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah, man.
Speaker A:Y'all should just let it.
Speaker A:Maybe it's Percy.
Speaker A:We need to be looking at Percy now.
Speaker C:But the.
Speaker C:This is even more drawing because Jenny is a pure Blood.
Speaker C:And the Aero Slytherin has been targeting Muggleborn.
Speaker C:So McGonagall's like, well, that's it, guys.
Speaker C:We're closed.
Speaker C:We're this.
Speaker C:We're done for.
Speaker C:We're gonna send the kids home.
Speaker C:Like, they got pure blood now.
Speaker C:There's nothing that can.
Speaker C:Can stop this.
Speaker C:We're gonna send the kids home.
Speaker C:And that's about it.
Speaker C:Start brushing up on your resumes.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:We're all screwed now.
Speaker D:Grand opening closing.
Speaker C:At this point, they still don't tell McGonagall that they know it's a basilisk.
Speaker C:They decide, damn, Jenny's down.
Speaker C:Obviously, Ron is.
Speaker C:Is devastated.
Speaker C:That's his sister.
Speaker C:He loves her.
Speaker C:So they run to.
Speaker C:They finally go and talk to Moni Myrtle.
Speaker C:It took them forever.
Speaker C:They finally go and talk to her and they're like, oh, I forgot.
Speaker C:I skipped ahead.
Speaker C:So after all this, huh?
Speaker C:Petty, petty.
Speaker C:All of these professors.
Speaker D:I said, are we gonna talk about.
Speaker C:Getaway locker rooms in late to this very important meeting?
Speaker C:Obviously it's important.
Speaker C:And everybody hates him.
Speaker C:You can tell everybody hates him.
Speaker C:He's like, oh, sorry, it's a little late, you know, I got wrapped up.
Speaker C:What's going on?
Speaker C:They're like, oh, well, hey, this.
Speaker C:Your time has come, Snape.
Speaker C:Your time has come.
Speaker C:You've been just talking about how you knew exactly where the Chamber of Secrets are.
Speaker C:And it was like, oh, yeah.
Speaker C:And didn't you say that you wish you could have dealt with it if you had free reign?
Speaker C:All this stuff, and everyone's just throwing them under the bus.
Speaker A:Listen, the moment the.
Speaker A:The best takedown of a person is when you can use their own words to take them down.
Speaker A:Just saying the other day, they should have been.
Speaker A:Gave you free reign and you would.
Speaker C:Have knocked this thing.
Speaker A:You.
Speaker A:I believe you just told us the other day that you knew exactly what was in the Chamber secret and if you were allowed to go down there, you would get.
Speaker A:Didn't you.
Speaker A:Didn't you say that the.
Speaker A:The thing stopped because you stopped it?
Speaker A:Like, didn't you?
Speaker A:This is a perfect time.
Speaker A:And like you said, at that moment, everybody's nobody.
Speaker A:Like this dude.
Speaker A:He has worn out his welcome and.
Speaker C:They can't stand his ass.
Speaker A:He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:I'll be.
Speaker C:Let me go do that.
Speaker A:I'll be on it.
Speaker C:Get ready.
Speaker A:I'll be on it.
Speaker C:I think.
Speaker B:I think my favorite part is when he leaves the room.
Speaker B:And McGonagall's like, okay, now that buffoon is gone.
Speaker C:Like, they just want him out of the way because.
Speaker C:And they all knew he ain't going.
Speaker C:No.
Speaker C:Nobody's Chamber Secrets.
Speaker C:He's gonna get his ass out.
Speaker C:Which is fine because we're done with him.
Speaker C:So she's like, oh, he's gone.
Speaker B:Good.
Speaker C:And she's like, okay, make the kids get ready.
Speaker C:They're going home tomorrow, so all the faculty leave to go report to their houses and kind of give them the news.
Speaker C:And Ron's like, we gotta figure it out.
Speaker C:We gotta go get my sister.
Speaker C:So they run to Gilderoy Lockhart's room to give that.
Speaker C:Give him the important information about what's in the Chamber of Secrets and where they think it is.
Speaker C:Because even they know he don't know shit.
Speaker C:And when they get to his room, they find his ass packing.
Speaker C:Like, he has already cleaned out half the stuff.
Speaker C:He got his boxes and trunks out.
Speaker C:He is ready to go.
Speaker C:And they're like, what the hell, dude?
Speaker C:You're supposed to be solving this.
Speaker C:He's like, I didn't sign up for this.
Speaker C:I thought this would be an easy job.
Speaker C:Now they want me to go down to some Chamber of Secrets.
Speaker C:I don't know where it is.
Speaker C:And they're like, well, we think we know where it is.
Speaker C:And they're like, wait, what about all the stuff in your books?
Speaker C:And he admits.
Speaker C:And he monologues.
Speaker C:He monologues and tells them his whole scheme.
Speaker C:How he would find the wizards who actually did all those things and then Obliviate them and steal their stories.
Speaker C:And mostly because they weren't good looking.
Speaker C:Basically.
Speaker C:He said one girl had a hairless.
Speaker C:The other dude was ugly.
Speaker C:Like, he shouldn't be on the COVID of a book.
Speaker C:Of course I should have done it.
Speaker A:So when they get there and he is like, oh, boys, good to see you.
Speaker A:I'm getting up out of here.
Speaker A:I was like, yeah, let him go, y'all.
Speaker A:Let him go.
Speaker A:But it's.
Speaker A:It's because he's like, ah, well, I done told y'all too much.
Speaker C:Stories.
Speaker C:I told.
Speaker B:Can we also rewind for a minute?
Speaker B:When they're up in the common room before they come down, they don't even bother sneaking to go down to Lockhart's office.
Speaker B:They just walk out the portrait hole.
Speaker B:And no one says anything.
Speaker B:Like, if you were ever going to go sneak around right now because you really needed to get a go to Lockhart, why not grab the invisibility?
Speaker C:They never have that damn cloak.
Speaker C:I would.
Speaker C:I would make a special pouch just for that cloak.
Speaker C:I would never go outside anywhere without that coat.
Speaker C:Like, he underutilizes it so much.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Because if Lockhart's your last hope, you need to get to him.
Speaker B:And you took no precautions to make.
Speaker C:Sure you got any sort of preparation at all.
Speaker C:Like, one thing I know, it's like they're going down.
Speaker C:They know it's a basilisk.
Speaker C:They know how a basilisk.
Speaker C:What can hurt a basilisk?
Speaker C:And.
Speaker C:And they don't bring.
Speaker C:They don't bring anything.
Speaker C:They just take.
Speaker C:Kill the Red Locker.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker C:But I also think, oh, they bring like a rooster.
Speaker C:I would go get, like, recorder roosters.
Speaker C:Crow and take that shit with me.
Speaker C:Like, like you brought nothing.
Speaker D:The roosters were all killed.
Speaker D:All of Hagrid's roosters are killed.
Speaker D:There are no more roosters.
Speaker C:They can figure it the out.
Speaker B:Wait, hold on.
Speaker C:They can transfigure a rooster.
Speaker B:That's true.
Speaker A:I forgot this part.
Speaker A:So they, they go see her Mike, right in her hand.
Speaker A:Is like everything they ever needed all along, correct?
Speaker A:This could have been taken care of if they just were good friends.
Speaker A:Saw her three months ago.
Speaker C:I'll give them this, they did attempt, but clearly they didn't try hard enough because they got in this time really easy.
Speaker A:And then they, they're like, man, what's going on here?
Speaker A:Then they pry it out of her hands and take this little piece of paper.
Speaker A:And everything in the world is on this little piece of paper.
Speaker A:She had figured it all out and it's just been sitting here in the hospital wing for months.
Speaker B:And nobody looked at her hands.
Speaker A:Not a single person looked at her hand.
Speaker C:They just threw her over there.
Speaker C:So she's petrified.
Speaker A:Whatever on the paper, it has.
Speaker A:She has in that paper this thing about the basilisk.
Speaker A:It says pipes, question mark, pipes, pipes.
Speaker A:Because she worked it out.
Speaker A:And even in this time, that's.
Speaker A:Totally forgot about this when we were talking about it a minute ago.
Speaker A:Even in this, as Harry is putting it all together, we have Ron being like, what about the cat, though?
Speaker A:What about the like, okay, hold on, hold on.
Speaker A:Colin Creevey saw him through his camera lens.
Speaker A:Nick's already dead, so he can't die again.
Speaker C:Hermione and the Ravenclaw had a mirror.
Speaker A:Well, Hermione.
Speaker A:Hermione figured it out.
Speaker A:She probably told the first person she saw that Ravenclaw girl took out her mirror to check around the corner.
Speaker A:Boom, boom.
Speaker A:This is all checking.
Speaker A:The math is math.
Speaker A:And she has always said, Harry can do math and he's mathing, he's cooking.
Speaker A:And immediately you get Ron saying about the cat, though.
Speaker A:Doesn't work.
Speaker A:It doesn't work.
Speaker A:I don't know about that cat, though.
Speaker D:I don't know how that cat.
Speaker A:Five out of the six people we explained, and he's like, the cat, though.
Speaker A:Here's the problem, though.
Speaker A:The cat, right?
Speaker A:I mean, for the cat not being caught, I.
Speaker A:I wouldn't know who did it.
Speaker A:I wouldn't know.
Speaker A:What do we do?
Speaker A:I don't know if this is it, Harry.
Speaker A:And I'm like, that's enough for me.
Speaker A:That's enough for me.
Speaker A:I don't need to figure out this.
Speaker C:I don't give A about that cat.
Speaker A:But respect to Harry for being like, the water man.
Speaker A:The water from the bathroom saw the water reflection.
Speaker A:Boom, boom.
Speaker A:That's what it was.
Speaker A:And then I was like, all right, it all now checks out, bro.
Speaker C:You weren't doing due diligence.
Speaker A:In addition, remember when Hermione said, I think I figured it out, Took off to the library.
Speaker A:Harry's like, where's she going, Ron?
Speaker A:Like, you know, whatever.
Speaker A:She got figured something out.
Speaker A:She runs to the library.
Speaker A:When you find that library book page in her hand crumpled up, maybe you need to start running to the library.
Speaker C:Yeah, read a little bit.
Speaker A:Read a little bit.
Speaker A:Because now y'all know everything can be figured out in the library.
Speaker D:Is that an allegory for life?
Speaker C:It's not just reading, it's applying.
Speaker C:So they read all that and did not prepare at all.
Speaker A:Actually, you know what it is?
Speaker A:That's my bad.
Speaker A:That's my bad because I completely forgot that Harry and Ron are figure reading is unimportant.
Speaker A:They read everything about Nicholas Flamel.
Speaker A:Couldn't figure it out.
Speaker A:Said, well, books ain't the answer and never touch the things again.
Speaker A:That's it.
Speaker A:Guess who wasn't good.
Speaker A:And they're like Hermione trying to read again.
Speaker A:That's how things are figured out.
Speaker A:Hermione, you need to look at the back of chocolate frogs.
Speaker A:That's how we figure things out.
Speaker C:So this is proof of their immense grief that they went to Gilderoy expecting to help him do anything.
Speaker C:Like, they were clearly shook.
Speaker B:But also they finally go to an adult, which we've been asking for the entire Gilderoy Lockhart.
Speaker C:Like, that's like not going to an adult.
Speaker D:They have planned to go to McGonagall.
Speaker A:But they came down.
Speaker C:They still should have went to McGonagall.
Speaker C:They should have went directly to McGonagall and been like, hey, by the way, this, this, and this.
Speaker A:Shantay, let me pivot for a second.
Speaker A:Let me.
Speaker A:Let me, let me.
Speaker A:Let me have a little bit of their back.
Speaker A:I need us 12 at this time.
Speaker C:Let me finish together.
Speaker A:It's not just because they're 12.
Speaker A:Not just because they're 12.
Speaker A:It's because they're 12.
Speaker A:But they're sitting in the room where it sounds like Gilderoy is going to be the one to go do this again.
Speaker C:How stupid they are.
Speaker C:Because they were also in the room at the Next part where McGona's like, thank God he's gone.
Speaker C:Like, can't stand it.
Speaker C:Like, if you can't even detect sarcasm.
Speaker C:Fine.
Speaker C:McGonagall was very clear.
Speaker C:They can't stand that dude.
Speaker C:And everyone thinks he's stupid.
Speaker C:So come on.
Speaker A:Well, they said, let me go.
Speaker A:Let's go give him the heads up before he go down there.
Speaker C:Even though they knew that he was incompetent, they have tricked this man, like, two or three times by now.
Speaker C:So clearly he's not smarter than the fifth grader.
Speaker C:Come on.
Speaker C:Anyways, we're in there.
Speaker C:He's about to Obliviate them because he's told them his whole grand scheme.
Speaker C:Like I said, he monologues.
Speaker C:And he's like, okay, well, I can't have you go around telling everyone my secret, even though pretty sure they already know.
Speaker C:So he decides he's gonna try to Obliviate them.
Speaker C:And Harry Potter uses his favorite spell, Expelliarmus.
Speaker A:Right here is when he's like this.
Speaker A:Once I use this the first time in battle.
Speaker A:It worked.
Speaker A:When I play Madden, sometimes I just play the same play.
Speaker A:You know, if you play.
Speaker C:If it works, it definitely was effective.
Speaker C:Gilderoy back.
Speaker C:His wand goes flying.
Speaker C:Ron grabs it and throws it out the window.
Speaker C:Now, here's where I think, Ron, you don't have a wand that works.
Speaker C:You might.
Speaker C:You didn't consider keeping it?
Speaker C:All right, fine, fine, whatever.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:That's what I thought, too.
Speaker B:I was like, your wand is up.
Speaker B:His wand is not.
Speaker B:Why did you throw that one out right now?
Speaker C:But anyway, so then they turn their wands on Gilderoy, even Ron's janky broken one.
Speaker C:And they forced him to go to Moaning Myrtle's bathroom now, knowing how useless he is because he just confessed to them that he can't do shit.
Speaker C:Why still bring him along?
Speaker B:Meat shield.
Speaker C:They didn't bring.
Speaker C:They didn't bring any weapons.
Speaker C:They threw away his wand so he can't help.
Speaker C:And, like, we already know he's not going to be any help.
Speaker C:They didn't try to get any rooster's crow.
Speaker C:They didn't try to get any competent adult.
Speaker C:But they still went and dragged him along.
Speaker C:He's a meat shield, I guess.
Speaker C:Well, we'll see.
Speaker C:So they get to Moaning Myrtle's toilet finally, and she's like, oh, what are you doing here?
Speaker C:And Harry Potter finally asks her what he should have asked her back on Halloween.
Speaker C:How did you die?
Speaker C:And immediately her whole face changes.
Speaker C:She looks so flattered and excited like.
Speaker C:And says, no one's ever asked me about my death before.
Speaker C:She's been dead for 50 wild years.
Speaker A:50 years.
Speaker C:What the.
Speaker B:And people don't give a damn.
Speaker C:No wonder she's so miserable.
Speaker C:And they blame her for it.
Speaker C:It was like, no, Y'all are just awful people anyway.
Speaker C:Oh, my gosh.
Speaker D:Damn.
Speaker B:She's also pretty awful.
Speaker C:I mean, she.
Speaker C:I mean, she's miserable because people are awful.
Speaker C:They're trash.
Speaker C:So she tells them her story that she was crying in the toilet because Olivia Hornby was making fun of her glasses.
Speaker C:And she heard someone come in, and they were speaking some funny language.
Speaker D:And.
Speaker C:She was going to tell him to leave because she could tell it was a boy.
Speaker C:And so she opened the stall to come out to tell them to go.
Speaker C:And then she died.
Speaker C:And they were like, okay, well, what happened?
Speaker C:She's like, I don't know.
Speaker C:All I know is I saw two big yellow eyes and then I stiffened up and I floated away.
Speaker C:She also let us know that she hung.
Speaker C:Came back to haunt Olivia Hornby.
Speaker C:So there you go.
Speaker C:Myrtle's also a little petty because, yeah, she's petty.
Speaker B:Myrtle's a lot of things.
Speaker B:Petty is 100% one of them.
Speaker C:It's a big one.
Speaker A:It's a big one.
Speaker A:It's a huge one.
Speaker C:So they're like, okay, so where was he speaking this funny language?
Speaker C:She's like, sink directly across from my stall.
Speaker C:Like, like what?
Speaker C:Like they didn't have to live.
Speaker C:It wasn't some secret corner.
Speaker C:It was like that one directly over here across the stall I'm always in.
Speaker C:Every time you come in here, like the 30 days it took you to brew that polyjuice potion right there.
Speaker C:So they go.
Speaker C:And they look at it and they try to turn on the water.
Speaker C:She goes, oh, it never.
Speaker C:It never worked.
Speaker C:It's never worked.
Speaker A:What?
Speaker C:It's never worked.
Speaker C:No one looked into this.
Speaker A:No one.
Speaker B:That's because nobody goes into this bathroom.
Speaker C:But even before she died and made that bathroom a place on Winch, it didn't work when it was her time, either.
Speaker C:It didn't work.
Speaker C:And no one ever looked into it and said, huh?
Speaker C:Why does this faucet never work?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like, how is there not a maintenance person that has checked that out at some point?
Speaker C:Isn't that.
Speaker C:What's.
Speaker C:His face is Filch's job.
Speaker C:That's still his job.
Speaker B:Well, all he does is clean.
Speaker B:He complains about cleaning all the time.
Speaker C:Oh, my gosh.
Speaker B:Apparently he doesn't do any repairs.
Speaker C:He does not do anything.
Speaker C:So they're like, it doesn't work.
Speaker C:So they're starting like, oh, we're even closer, and Harry notices a little snake etched onto the side.
Speaker C:So he's like, this has got to be it.
Speaker C:So Ron's like, well speak Parseltongue.
Speaker C:Open it up.
Speaker C:And Harry is not used to actively or consciously speaking parsel tongue.
Speaker C:He does it unconsciously, right?
Speaker C:He sees a snake and somehow he's talking.
Speaker C:So the first time he tries to do it, he doesn't do it.
Speaker C:But he has to get himself in the mode and he's able to open it up.
Speaker C:And there is a huge gaping hole with a huge pipe.
Speaker C:Again, this pipe is huge compared to what pipes should normally be there.
Speaker C:And no one, no one thought to question that.
Speaker C:What?
Speaker C:I don't like so many, so many missed opportunities here over 50 plus years, over thousands of years.
Speaker C:Because the Chamber of Secrets has been there that whole time.
Speaker B:But I'm going to go back to the wizards don't know how big pipes are supposed to be because they use.
Speaker C:Vanishing spells, but at this point they put in the pipes.
Speaker C:So somebody had to have thought of something.
Speaker C:Unless wizard poops are so damn huge that they were like, yep, that tracks.
Speaker A:They're like indoor plumbing.
Speaker A:That's, that's a future U.S.
Speaker A:problem.
Speaker A:We're going to figure out this thing.
Speaker C:They're like, hey, we're going down, we're going to do it.
Speaker C:And Ghidorah is like, oh well, you don't need me.
Speaker C:And in this instance he's right.
Speaker C:They don't need.
Speaker C:But they're like, nah, you're coming down to, you're supposed to be dealing with this.
Speaker C:So they push him down first because like C.J.
Speaker C:said, he's a meat shield.
Speaker C:And then Harry jumps in and then Ron jumps in and they're falling or sliding down a pipe.
Speaker C:They're down a pipe and they're going and going for long, long bits of time.
Speaker C:And Harry's like, oh dang, we must be miles below the school.
Speaker C:I hope this ends well because I'm just falling down for long periods of time.
Speaker C:As they get close to the bottom, the pipe levels out and they go shooting out.
Speaker C:And they're in this deep, dark, dank chamber as they have made it to the Chamber of Secrets.
Speaker B:Well, they're in like, they're anti chamber to the chamber.
Speaker C:They're in this huge dark cave, right, that's leading up to the chamber.
Speaker B:They're in the room before the room.
Speaker C:So they get up and they start walking and they come across this big snake skin.
Speaker C:At the time they think it's a snake because it's huge.
Speaker C:And we know snake.
Speaker C:Snakes are reptiles.
Speaker C:They shed their skin and they're like, oh, no, has it seen us?
Speaker C:And then they notice, oh, wait, it's.
Speaker C:It's the skin.
Speaker C:And at this point, Gilderoy uses this opportunity to try to pull a fast one.
Speaker C:He acts like he faints.
Speaker C:And they're like, what?
Speaker C:Did he faint?
Speaker C:Ron goes to investigate.
Speaker C:Gilroy jumps up and snatches his broken wand and goes, dude, I'm out this.
Speaker C:I ain't trying to be down here.
Speaker C:Y'all are crazy.
Speaker C:And I'm gonna to Obliviate you and just tell them that you found her bones and you went crazy or something like that.
Speaker C:But I'm not hanging around.
Speaker C:So he tries to Obliviate Ron and Harry and the spell backfires and knocks him the out.
Speaker C:And it also causes a cave in, which conveniently leaves Ron and Gilderoy on one side and Harry on the other.
Speaker B:Can we just point out that Ron actually came up clutch just by being there because his W was broken.
Speaker A:So that's not, I mean the right time.
Speaker A:Don't play with me.
Speaker A:That wand.
Speaker A:He didn't make that wand break.
Speaker A:He didn't do nothing but have a cheap one.
Speaker A:And they got broke the other day, right?
Speaker A:And he.
Speaker C:Broken at the beginning of the year.
Speaker C:It's been broken the whole time.
Speaker A:It's been broke all year.
Speaker D:Been broken last year.
Speaker A:And he knows that this thing don't work worth a damn and everybody else does too.
Speaker C:G.
Speaker C:Lockhart doesn't pay attention to anything but himself.
Speaker A:Correct.
Speaker A:And so he uses this thing backfires like he did before when he had the slugs coming out of his face or whatever.
Speaker A:And this hits him right there in the brain.
Speaker A:So he is now Obliviated himself.
Speaker A:By the way, this is a nice trick, one you should probably keep even when he needs a new wand.
Speaker A:So that way he could throw it like he could like.
Speaker A:Oh, no.
Speaker C:I believe the wand is destroyed in like the backfiring ensuing rock slide business.
Speaker C:So.
Speaker A:Oh.
Speaker A:Because I'll be like, look, man, this is the second time someone used a spell with that wand.
Speaker A:And then it hit them.
Speaker A:What great in a battle be like spelly armor.
Speaker A:It's me.
Speaker A:Oh, no, I don't have it anymore.
Speaker A:You now have my wand.
Speaker A:Don't hit me with my wand.
Speaker A:And then they're like.
Speaker A:And then it kills himself.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:How crazy would that be to expell.
Speaker B:The arm is somebody.
Speaker B:You need a wand.
Speaker B:So at that point they wouldn't need Ron's wand.
Speaker A:I know.
Speaker A:I'm saying when I say expelliarm, I think I Think, I think he just says it out loud.
Speaker A:He throws the wand at them.
Speaker C:So why would they need.
Speaker A:I want them to still pick it up and say I'm a.
Speaker A:It's like, it's like making someone have to get beat by their own finisher in wrestling, right?
Speaker A:It's just disrespectful.
Speaker A:It's meant to be disrespectful.
Speaker A:And so Ron's like, oh no, I don't have my wand anymore.
Speaker A:Don't use it to hurt me.
Speaker A:And then they're like that need to.
Speaker C:Be in place for that plan to happen and think it would work.
Speaker B:And also we know damn well Ron doesn't plan facts.
Speaker A:So listen, I actually, it's a, this is a two step process.
Speaker A:Chante Harry runs in, hits whatever wizard with his patented expelliarmus, right?
Speaker A:Wand gone.
Speaker A:Then Ron trips and loses his wand towards the other person.
Speaker A:Oh no, there's my wand.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:Now neither one of us have a wand.
Speaker A:That person will then pick it up, do a spell back to Harry or Ron, bingo, bango, hurt themselves.
Speaker B:But if they're already disarmed, why not just like virtuous totalis them and then place them under magical.
Speaker A:I'm just trying to figure out ways for this one.
Speaker C:Okay?
Speaker C:This is not the way to use your energy.
Speaker C:It just isn't.
Speaker A:I'm gonna take it back, I'm gonna workshop it, I'm gonna see what happens later.
Speaker C:Sure, go ahead.
Speaker C:So Ron decides to stay and try to clear out some rocks so that when Harry comes back he can get through.
Speaker C:Harry's like, okay if I decides to stay, go for it.
Speaker C:And he's like, okay if I don't make it back in an hour?
Speaker C:I don't know, I don't know what to tell you.
Speaker C:So he leaves and he gets to this big door with intertwined snakes with emerald eyes and he uses his parcel tongue to open them.
Speaker C:And he goes inside the chamber.
Speaker C:And that's the end of chapter 16.
Speaker C:So chapter 17.
Speaker C:The heir of Slytherin, he walks through and he comes up through the chamber.
Speaker C:They're describing it, whatever.
Speaker C:But he gets to a statue of Salazar Slytherin and at his feet is Ginny Weasley.
Speaker C:And she is knocked out.
Speaker C:So here is.
Speaker C:First of all, he runs to Jenny, throws his wand away and tries to wake her up.
Speaker C:You know there's a basilisk in there.
Speaker C:Your only means of defense is that stick in your hand and in order to shake someone awake, you throw it away.
Speaker B:It makes me wonder, do robes not have Pockets.
Speaker C:Yes, they do.
Speaker B:So what was his.
Speaker D:Why.
Speaker B:Why did he throw his wand away?
Speaker B:It's just like, man, this never would have happened if Hermione was there.
Speaker C:That's what you're doing.
Speaker C:She would have got it for like.
Speaker A:Okay, okay.
Speaker A:So I want you to.
Speaker A:I want you to take that back.
Speaker A:Because we all know in the final scene, Harry always gotta go it alone.
Speaker A:That's kind of how that is.
Speaker A:And we're now here in the final scene and Harry can only face the final boss by himself.
Speaker A:So this still would have happened if Hermione was there because she would have been like, oh, no, there's some reason I can't be there to help you.
Speaker A:And he's like, God, do his.
Speaker B:With his wand.
Speaker C:I think this just goes back saying that, like, Harry doesn't know magic.
Speaker C:He can do Expell the Armist.
Speaker C:So to him, the wand really is just a stick.
Speaker C:And he's like, ah.
Speaker B:So, like, no, what this really is is when Harry proved that he was a Weasley because he's got hands.
Speaker A:You.
Speaker B:Harry's about to square up with the Basilisk.
Speaker A:I want you to take that back and workshop it.
Speaker A:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:To come back.
Speaker B:Weasley's got hands.
Speaker B:Harry's got hands.
Speaker A:Take back that Harry take.
Speaker A:Workshop it.
Speaker A:Come back to us a little bit later with something different about Harry and.
Speaker D:His courage which is why he's able to summon some help here.
Speaker C:So he's there trying to wake Jenny up.
Speaker C:She ain't waking up.
Speaker C:Clearly.
Speaker C:And then Tom's like, hey, yo, she ain't gonna get up.
Speaker C:And he's like, oh, Tom Riddle, what are you doing here?
Speaker C:Now, why is he not immediately suspicious?
Speaker C:What the fuck is a memory doing outside of the thing?
Speaker A:Okay, If I am reading this book and then all of a sudden Harry says, what do you think of that book?
Speaker A:And I look up and Harry Potter is standing across from me.
Speaker A:I'm gonna be like, what the are you doing here?
Speaker A:How are you.
Speaker D:How did you get a castle with goats?
Speaker D:With Poltergeist?
Speaker D:You're in a fucking castle with a Basilisk in the basement.
Speaker D:This is a low level of foolishness.
Speaker A:Absolutely, Sasha.
Speaker A:Remember that time he was hearing.
Speaker A:He was hearing a snake in the walls?
Speaker A:And he was like, oh, man, this is weird.
Speaker A:And then Ron said, listen, man, even for wizards, that's some weird shit.
Speaker A:This right here ain't never been talked about.
Speaker A:Where the thing that I was writing in a secret.
Speaker A:Him.
Speaker A:Him writing in a book.
Speaker A:In the book, writing back Magic.
Speaker A:I could.
Speaker A:I could chalk that up to magic.
Speaker A:I'm okay with that.
Speaker A:That magic guy being outside the book.
Speaker C:We've all seen the whole.
Speaker A:That's not the magic.
Speaker C:That's bad.
Speaker C:That is not good.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:I gotta actually side with Natasha here.
Speaker D:But also.
Speaker D:But also Harry has been pulled into the book though as well.
Speaker D:So it's not abnormal for Tom to be there in the flesh.
Speaker D:Because Harry was in the flesh.
Speaker C:Tom was in the diary.
Speaker C:The diary was stolen.
Speaker C:Why would he think the diary would be in there?
Speaker C:No, it's not.
Speaker A:No, no.
Speaker B:Because I got to side with Natasha because Myrtle never leaves her bathroom.
Speaker B:It's entirely possible Tom just lives there.
Speaker C:In the Chamber of Secrets.
Speaker C:What?
Speaker D:Okay, I'm saying we don't know who the fuck Tom is.
Speaker B:Yeah, he's a ghost that lives down there.
Speaker C:Let's pretend we all don't know he's Voldemort.
Speaker C:What?
Speaker C:From what we have learned about Tom Riddle would make it seem okay for him to live in the Chamber of Secrets.
Speaker C:And he could have been a ghost.
Speaker D:That died in the Chamber and stayed.
Speaker C:In the Chamber of Secrets.
Speaker D:Why not?
Speaker C:Was Myrtle.
Speaker C:Moaning Myrtle.
Speaker C:Whatever.
Speaker C:And Tom left and was a.
Speaker C:Was a head boy.
Speaker C:Which means he made it to his seventh year.
Speaker A:Tag me in.
Speaker C:You're in.
Speaker A:Tag me in.
Speaker A:And in addition they know that Tom isn't in the Chamber because Harry actually jumped in that memory talked to him.
Speaker A:Allegedly the Chamber got sealed up cuz Tom found Hagrid, remember?
Speaker A:Allegedly.
Speaker A:So there's no way Tom.
Speaker A:Because that's how he knows what Tom look like.
Speaker A:He was in his memory.
Speaker D:So this could have been years later.
Speaker C:Like this is too many leaves.
Speaker C:You're stretching too much like.
Speaker C:Nah, that don't even make sense.
Speaker D:It's not at all.
Speaker D:It's not at all you.
Speaker D:When he meets.
Speaker D:Wait, hold on a second.
Speaker D:When he meets Tom in the book, Tom is what already 16 is or whatever.
Speaker D:So even if Tom did two more years and was head boy and then left and came back when he was 22, he'd probably still look the same.
Speaker D:It is not out of the realm of possibility that he came back and something happened that Harry doesn't know about.
Speaker D:And now he's in the Chamber.
Speaker D:Diamond Chamber.
Speaker D:There's so many ways somebody random could end up in.
Speaker D:We now have Gild Lockhart in the Chamber.
Speaker D:Who obliviated?
Speaker D:There's so many ways you can fuck around and find out in Hogwarts nothing.
Speaker C:Is off limit one.
Speaker C:Everyone knows that the last time the Chamber was open was 50 years ago, if it had been opened again, people would know.
Speaker C:Two, in order to open it, you have to speak parsel tongue.
Speaker C:And only a few people can do it, so you can't just accidentally stumble into the chamber.
Speaker C:And three, we know that Tom went on to do other things because they talk about it when they were doing research on him and they know he like, traveled around and then he disappeared.
Speaker C:So it doesn't make sense that Tom would somehow.
Speaker D:So he couldn't have disappeared into the Chamber of Secrets and died.
Speaker C:The thing hasn't been open in 50 years and no one knew where it was.
Speaker A:Natasha.
Speaker C:No one knew where it was.
Speaker D:Exactly.
Speaker B:It hasn't been open to our knowledge in 50 years.
Speaker C:Exactly.
Speaker A:Listen.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:Dumbledore's been here the whole time.
Speaker C:Disagree.
Speaker B:This all could have been solved if Dumbledore would have been teaching students that Tom Riddler is Voldemort.
Speaker C:That.
Speaker D:And we're back to that too.
Speaker C:But like me coming down to a chamber where my.
Speaker C:My s.
Speaker C:My friend's dead sisters laying down.
Speaker C:And then Tom freaking Riddle from a book that shouldn't even be there is just chilling, hanging out.
Speaker C:Nah, that's suspicious, man.
Speaker C:Like not, not having at least a little bit of skepticism situation.
Speaker C:He should be on high alert.
Speaker C:You don't go down into a situation like that unprepared and start, oh, Tom, you're down here too.
Speaker C:Great.
Speaker C:This ain't the Piggly Wiggly, it's the Chamber of Secrets.
Speaker C:You don't just run into friends in the Chamber of Secrets.
Speaker C:Like.
Speaker C:No, absolutely not.
Speaker D:Listen, all I'm saying, all I am saying, all I am saying is that in the grand scheme of things, of all the fuckery and shenanigans that are happening in the chamber, Tom Riddle being there, as opposed to the, the giant basilisk.
Speaker D:We got Jenny Weasley, who's halfway dead.
Speaker D:We get down and we have get.
Speaker D:I'm saying all of the things possible.
Speaker D:He is not the one that would have me climbing the walls.
Speaker D:It's a possibility.
Speaker D:There's several different things that could have happened there.
Speaker D:It's all a cluster.
Speaker A:I do want to say this.
Speaker A:This is.
Speaker A:This is.
Speaker A:This is important to what you're saying.
Speaker A:I want you.
Speaker A:I want to say this because it's.
Speaker A:This is ridiculous.
Speaker A:Everything else, including the basilisk, including Jenny being down there.
Speaker A:Everything else is explained.
Speaker A:There is no explanation for a living embodiment of this book be standing here and looking at Harry and say, bet you're wondering how I got here, huh?
Speaker A:And then tell him, launch into his story.
Speaker A:About what happened?
Speaker D:No, I'm saying when he explains the story we get.
Speaker D:But I'm talking about when he first shows up.
Speaker D:When he first shows up he's just another piece of crazy.
Speaker C:Are explained the reason Gilroy's down there because they brought him down.
Speaker C:There's a reason why just because something.
Speaker D:Is explained makes it less.
Speaker D:Alrighty, we're gonna agree to dis a gray.
Speaker C:Absolutely.
Speaker D:Where is my gavel?
Speaker C:You need to have a little bit more fight or flight in you.
Speaker C:All right.
Speaker A:Anyway, so ultimately though, there's no place safer than Hogwarts.
Speaker A:Remember this.
Speaker D:There you go.
Speaker D:And we're back to that as well.
Speaker C:Tom's just hanging out and Harry isn't suspicious because he has a low survival instinct anyways.
Speaker C:And he's like oh, she ain't gonna wake up.
Speaker C:And he's like Tom.
Speaker C:He notices that the edges of Tom are a little shimmery.
Speaker C:Like he's kind of solid but the edges are shimmery.
Speaker C:And he's like okay, well which by.
Speaker B:The way, that's when he should have started asking questions.
Speaker A:That's exactly.
Speaker C:Okay, so he's shimmery and he's like okay, well hey Tom, can you get over here and help me?
Speaker C:Which why did he think that the memory had enough, you know, corporate corporeality to help or whatever.
Speaker C:So he's trying to pick up Jenny's.
Speaker C:He doesn't see the one yet.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:So he's trying to pick up Jenny's dead weight.
Speaker C:And he's like hey Tom, since you're down here, can you help me out?
Speaker C:We got to get out of here real quick.
Speaker C:And Tom's like no, I'm not going to help you.
Speaker C:He's like oh, I need my.
Speaker C:Hey, you got my wand, can you give it back?
Speaker C:And he's like I'm not going to give it back either.
Speaker C:He's like dude, what's going on?
Speaker C:Why are you down here?
Speaker C:And then Tom.
Speaker C:And he's like no, no.
Speaker C:He first is like dude, we got to get out.
Speaker C:There's a basilisk coming.
Speaker C:Tom goes, it won't come until it's called.
Speaker C:Finally Harry realizes something ain't right here.
Speaker C:And he's like what is going on?
Speaker C:Why are you here?
Speaker C:And and then this is where Tom starts monologuing, right?
Speaker C:So he's.
Speaker C:This is all our exposition.
Speaker C:And Harry Potter still is kind of like putting two and two together.
Speaker C:So he's like, he tells him how Jenny.
Speaker C:He trapped Jenny through the diary and how he had been listening to her stupid 11 year old self talk about, oh, my God, I love Harry Potter.
Speaker C:Oh, my God, my brothers are mean to me and now I have to wear hand me down clothes.
Speaker C:And he's like, oh, my gosh, she's annoying.
Speaker C:He talks about how he can always charm the people he needs.
Speaker C:And so he's charming to Jenny.
Speaker C:He pretends to listen to her and to commiserate with her.
Speaker C:And as he's doing that, he's slowly leeching bits of her away and replace them with his own soul.
Speaker C:He said he started to pour his soul, keyword soul, as we'll talk about more later, into her and using that to control her.
Speaker C:So Ginny's the one who opened the Chamber of Secrets under his control.
Speaker C:She's the one who killed all the roosters and strangled them up so they weren't wouldn't be there to kill the basilisk.
Speaker C:She's also the one who sent the basilisk after the Muggle Borns.
Speaker C:And she started to suspect that she was the one doing it.
Speaker C:She was like, oh, she wrote to me, oh, Tom, I woke up and I'm covered in.
Speaker C:In feathers.
Speaker C:What happened, Tom?
Speaker C:I have paint on me, Tom.
Speaker C:I think I'm the one doing all these things.
Speaker C:So she gets spooked and she decides to throw away the journal.
Speaker C:And that's when it falls into Harry's hands.
Speaker C:And then he talks about how he was very excited to finally meet Harry Potter because of all the things Ginny had been telling him about her, about him, like how he had destroyed Voldemort and even when he was a baby, how he's so famous and how Jenny has a huge crush on him.
Speaker C:And he's like, when I first came out, I was trying to go after Muggle Borns, but once I heard about you, you became my target.
Speaker C:He admits to framing Hagrid and making it look like Hagrid was the one who opened it.
Speaker C:And this is where Aunt Harry goes, oh, Dumbledore knew all about you.
Speaker C:And this is when he says, he kept a close eye on me after Hagrid got expelled.
Speaker C:I still believe that.
Speaker C:Dumbledore wasn't sure until Hagrid got his foot.
Speaker C:Because he's like, hagrid ain't nobody's heir Slytherin.
Speaker C:That'll make no damn sense.
Speaker C:The only person that this makes sense for is this fool right here.
Speaker C:So now I'm gonna keep an eye on him.
Speaker A:I don't think we're asking the right questions, guys.
Speaker A:I think we need to be asking, what exactly was Jimmy writing in his Diary for this diary says, my plan of genocide.
Speaker A:I just want to kill this boy.
Speaker C:She told him about how he killed Voldemort.
Speaker C:And as we learned through this, Tom Riddle is Voldemort.
Speaker D:He doesn't abandon his plan.
Speaker A:Yes, he says, because.
Speaker A:Because right there.
Speaker A:Yeah, he does.
Speaker A:He says, I thought you.
Speaker A:She's.
Speaker A:She's a pure blood.
Speaker A:He's like, look, man, the plan of killing the Muggleboards, I just wanted to get your ass down here because I want to take your ass out.
Speaker A:So exactly how much detail as has she written about Harry in this?
Speaker C:And I'm sure there's embellishment in there, right?
Speaker C:Like as legends go, like every time someone tells it, they add a little bit more.
Speaker C:And like Dumbledore said, what happened last year was a secret.
Speaker C:So of course everybody knew.
Speaker C:And of course when you start talking telephone, it gets bigger and bigger.
Speaker C:So I'm sure the story Voldemort got had a lot of extra parts to it.
Speaker B:Yeah, I'm sure he killed the Dark Lord.
Speaker B:I love him because of it.
Speaker C:Like, he took him out and it was easy and.
Speaker C:And Tom's like, what?
Speaker C:Oh, we gotta see him in that memory.
Speaker B:I know he didn't kill me.
Speaker B:Future me.
Speaker A:Future me.
Speaker A:And here I.
Speaker A:Past me is gonna take care of that because he says to him, I know you.
Speaker A:I'm here to take out the guy that we met twice before in your f.
Speaker A:My future.
Speaker A:Your past.
Speaker A:Cuz like I like Jenny.
Speaker A:Did you give him the whole story?
Speaker A:Did you.
Speaker A:Did you give him the first book?
Speaker C:And you keep walking away.
Speaker C:Oh, hell no.
Speaker C:Gave him the whole damn story.
Speaker C:Told spill.
Speaker C:Spill all the damn tea.
Speaker C:You know how the Brits like their tea.
Speaker A:So everything.
Speaker A:I was like, damn.
Speaker C:Okay, go ahead.
Speaker C:The interesting part is as he's talking about that he says he knows all about Harry Potter.
Speaker C:And he looks at his scar like hungrily.
Speaker C:Like he's looking at that little bit.
Speaker C:And like.
Speaker C:Which again is making me think about the Horcrux.
Speaker C:And maybe he can sense a piece because, you know, like when Harry gets near a Horcrux, he can sense it.
Speaker C:Maybe Tom is sensing, oh, there's a.
Speaker C:Yeah, there's something over here.
Speaker C:And he even talks about how they're so similar, they even look similar.
Speaker C:Now it's been noted several times that Tom Riddle is.
Speaker C:Is beautiful.
Speaker C:He's supposedly a very handsome young man.
Speaker C:And then he, he Voldemort himself and now he's ugly as fuck.
Speaker C:But like, so this is kind of like a bad hand away of saying Harry Potter is, I guess, kind of cute, but they have dark hair and they come from the same background.
Speaker C:I mean, we already know about their.
Speaker C:Their compatible wands.
Speaker C:So there's a lot of similarities here.
Speaker C:He also talks about it took him five years to find the Chamber of Secrets and figure out all the stuff about it, which I think is pretty kind of.
Speaker C:I feel like this is where Harry should have said, only took me one year.
Speaker C:Like one year, dude.
Speaker C:Like I'm already out here.
Speaker C:Clearly you're not that great.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's not.
Speaker B:It's not even hard.
Speaker C:What are you doing?
Speaker C:Then we learn that Tom Riddle, Tom Marbolo Riddle, is actually Lord Voldemort.
Speaker C:I am Lord Voldemort.
Speaker C:And that's why he's so concerned.
Speaker C:Harry's like, wait, that was after your time.
Speaker C:He's like, no, that's my past, present and future.
Speaker C:And he was already using the name at Hogwarts.
Speaker C:So this is how we know Dumbledore knew, and I guess a few of his close friends knew that Tom Riddle and Voldemort were the same thing.
Speaker C:And then here we come with Wide.
Speaker C:He has abandonment issues.
Speaker C:He talks about he's not going to keep his.
Speaker C:His Muggle father's name.
Speaker C:The guy who ran off on him as soon as he found out that his mother was a witch.
Speaker C:Which we know there's a little bit more to that story than just that he found out she was a witch.
Speaker C:It's more like she.
Speaker C:She had him under thrall of a love spell and he came out of it and escaped his imprisonment.
Speaker C:But as far as Tom knows, he just abandoned him before he was born.
Speaker C:And so he created this new Persona and this new name and that is how we get Voldemort today.
Speaker C:He.
Speaker C:It's a little anagram of his own name.
Speaker C:So that's interesting.
Speaker C:He kept.
Speaker C:He could have come up with a whole new name with different letters, all this stuff.
Speaker C:He still kept his Muggleness within there.
Speaker C:But I don't know, we can get into psychology of that later.
Speaker C:But anyway, so he goes through all that, all that exposition, this, this very lengthy monologue and then he says, well, the great.
Speaker C:That he's the greatest wizard of all time.
Speaker C:There's no way Harry should have beat him twice.
Speaker C:And he's about to show him.
Speaker C:And Harry's like, hell, no.
Speaker C:Dumbledore is the greatest wizard of all time.
Speaker C:That's why you were afraid of him then and you're afraid of him now.
Speaker C:And he's like, everyone's afraid of the mere Mention in memory of me.
Speaker C:And he's like, nah, nah, son.
Speaker C:We know we got Dumbledore.
Speaker C:We're okay.
Speaker C:I ain't scared.
Speaker A:I ain't skipped.
Speaker A:He had that.
Speaker A:He had that Eminem going, going in his head.
Speaker A:I'm not afraid.
Speaker A:He was ready to go.
Speaker A:The ultimate hype music is what Harry had going, and he tried.
Speaker A:And the fact that you're fighting with the memory of the dude as he's becoming, like, more and more right.
Speaker A:Of a real boy, Pinocchio style.
Speaker C:Harry notices.
Speaker C:Damn, he's been talking a long time.
Speaker C:And his edges aren't as shimmery as they used to.
Speaker C:To be.
Speaker C:I.
Speaker C:I need to wrap this up.
Speaker C:And speaking of, like, entrance music, then the entrance music starts playing.
Speaker C:And who shows up but Fox?
Speaker A:Oh, my God, it's.
Speaker A:Fox's music.
Speaker C:Just appears in a ball of flame, which is, like, really freaking cool.
Speaker C:Playing this music, playing.
Speaker C:And he's like.
Speaker C:And he has the sorting hat.
Speaker C:And he drops the sorting hat at Harry's feet.
Speaker C:And Tom's like, so your Dumbledore is so great.
Speaker C:He sent you a bird and a dirty old hat.
Speaker C:This is gonna be.
Speaker C:This is gonna be easy.
Speaker C:All right, let's do this.
Speaker C:So he turns and he calls forth the basilisk.
Speaker C:And the basilisk comes out of the mouth of Salazar Sither, which, I mean, I feel like there could have been a better.
Speaker C:Better location.
Speaker C:I don't know if that would.
Speaker C:I don't know.
Speaker C:It just seemed like a weird choice for Salazar to make.
Speaker C:But whatever.
Speaker C:Basilisk comes out and he's trying to come at him, and Fox goes straight for the basilisk.
Speaker C:Harry decides to try to run away with his eyes closed.
Speaker C:Like, I mean, keep your head down at least, but, like, with your eyes closed, Harry, where are you gonna get.
Speaker C:Where are you gonna get?
Speaker C:And so he's running this and stuff, knocking into things.
Speaker C:He gets knocked over by the snake and he's like, oh, I.
Speaker C:I can't keep looking down.
Speaker C:So he.
Speaker C:He chances and looks up and he notices that Fox has eaten out the eyes of the snake.
Speaker C:He's poked him out, peck, peck, peck.
Speaker C:And there's blood running down.
Speaker C:It's getting all over the place.
Speaker C:But now the basilisk cannot look at him and kill him instantly.
Speaker C:So, okay, advantage, Team Fox.
Speaker C:I'm gonna call it Team Fox, because Team Fox is the one doing the work right now anyway.
Speaker C:So then Tom's like, hell, nah, you can still smell him.
Speaker C:Forget about that bird.
Speaker A:He's behind you.
Speaker C:The bassist can't see now.
Speaker C:And he's going all over the place.
Speaker C:Fox is giving him the old 1, 2, 1, 2.
Speaker C:And Harry gets kind of pushed aside and knocked and hit, hit around.
Speaker C:And also the sorting hat kind of falls in front of him.
Speaker C:And now he remembers Dumbledore said, ask for help, you'll get help.
Speaker C:So he takes the old sorting hat, puts it on his head and says, I need help.
Speaker C:I need help.
Speaker C:I need help.
Speaker C:And then they give him a concussion with the sword of Godric giving door, like, right, sorting hat gently next time.
Speaker C:Gently.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like, it drops on his head.
Speaker B:So now he's all discombobulated in the middle of a fight.
Speaker B:Like, we need to be checking the ringside doctor to see if he can continue.
Speaker C:Right now, he was barely comboulated before, and then you hit him on the head with the sword.
Speaker C:So he pulls out the sword.
Speaker C:It has these huge rubies on it.
Speaker C:And he's like, okay, I'm gonna.
Speaker C:I'm going for the snake.
Speaker C:And instead of, like, I don't know, going for one of the coils of the snake and maybe stabbing a couple of times in a couple of locations, he waits till the snake comes at him to try to bite him.
Speaker C:And, like, the snake misses.
Speaker C:He.
Speaker C:He faints left.
Speaker C:The snake comes again.
Speaker C:He faints right.
Speaker C:The snake's coming straight at him.
Speaker C:And Harry shoves that sword right up in his mouth and gets a fang in the arm for his trouble.
Speaker A:Yeah, all the way to the.
Speaker A:Through to the hilt.
Speaker A:Gets a fang in his arm.
Speaker A:And then the weird Voldemort puppet dream ghost monster memory thing is like, you took out my.
Speaker C:Yeah, you may have taken out the basket, but I see that thing in your arm.
Speaker C:You're dead.
Speaker C:You're dead.
Speaker A:You're dead, my guy.
Speaker A:And then I'm gonna stand over you.
Speaker C:And watch you and gloat.
Speaker C:I mean, he's still waiting to be carried pore right?
Speaker C:He's still waiting for Jenny to, like, give up the ghost, literally.
Speaker C:So he.
Speaker C:He can't really do too much.
Speaker C:Just like, yeah, you're dead.
Speaker C:I'm gonna stand here and watch you die.
Speaker C:And Fox comes over and he puts his head on, and he's like, look, even Delvador's bird is sad.
Speaker A:Even that damn bird is crying for you.
Speaker C:And Fox cries on his arm.
Speaker C:And as we remember, Phoenix tears have healing powers.
Speaker C:So he heals the.
Speaker C:The venom.
Speaker C:Harry's like, oh, wait a minute.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah.
Speaker C:And then even Tom's like, oh, yeah, they do have healing powers.
Speaker C:I forgot.
Speaker D:Get away, bird.
Speaker D:Get away.
Speaker C:Get away from him.
Speaker A:How did he forget that?
Speaker A:How did he forget that?
Speaker A:Even the birds crying for you.
Speaker A:Wait a minute.
Speaker A:I forgot.
Speaker C:That's a good thing for you forgot about the good stuff.
Speaker C:So Harry's healed and, and Tom's like, whatever, I still got your wand and you're clearly not, not worth anything, so I'm going to take you out.
Speaker C:Fox swoops in and picks up the journal and drops it literally in Harry's lap.
Speaker C:And they do like one of these where they all freeze, look at it.
Speaker C:And then they kind of start trying to move at the same time.
Speaker C:Harry grabs the basilisk fang, stabs it through the journal and all this ink comes flooding out all over the place.
Speaker C:And Tom Riddle is no more.
Speaker C:Great job, Fox.
Speaker C:Way to kill everyone and do all the work.
Speaker B:Can we talk about how fortunate Harry is that he didn't accidentally stab himself in the leg when he stabbed the diary?
Speaker C:Fox is still there, so he could have cried a little bit more.
Speaker C:But yeah, you're right, he.
Speaker C:He really could have hurt himself with that because he stabbed it through the diary.
Speaker C:There was like Ron Woodow, but there's a hole through.
Speaker C:You can see through the diary.
Speaker C:So Harry gathers up all his stuff, he grabs the.
Speaker C:The diary, he grabs his wand finally.
Speaker C:And maybe this time he won't throw it somewhere.
Speaker C:He gets the sorting hat and he walks over to Jenny and she's starting to come to and she's.
Speaker C:Jenny's shook.
Speaker C:She's like, oh, my God, I'm gonna be expelled.
Speaker C:Oh, no.
Speaker C:I'm like, that was the first thing she said.
Speaker C:So it's like, it's all right, we're good.
Speaker C:We're gonna head out.
Speaker C:So they head back out.
Speaker C:Ron is there.
Speaker C:Ron has managed to clear off enough of the rocks they can get back through.
Speaker C:He sees his sister and yanks her through and he's so happy to see her.
Speaker C:And then we learn that Gilderoy is really stupid.
Speaker C:More stupid than before.
Speaker C:He doesn't know anything about himself or even magic, and he thinks they are in one of the boys's houses.
Speaker C:So we just know all.
Speaker C:Anything that could ever be anything in his brain is now gone.
Speaker C:So they're there.
Speaker C:They're like, dang, how are we going to get up this pipe?
Speaker C:And then Fox goes to Harry, was like, boy, just grab onto my tail.
Speaker C:I ain't got time for this.
Speaker C:I'm a busy phoenix.
Speaker A:The fact that Fox is like, back here.
Speaker A:I've been doing everything else.
Speaker C:Yeah, why as well do this too?
Speaker C:Let's just go.
Speaker C:So Harry's like, oh yeah, they can carry heavy stuff.
Speaker C:This Harry don't listen.
Speaker C:You don't listen.
Speaker A:Once again though, Ron is like, can this bird get us out of here?
Speaker A:Ron, you.
Speaker A:All you did was take care of this baby.
Speaker C:He also rocks.
Speaker A:You took care of this baby, man.
Speaker C:He moved some rocks.
Speaker A:You moved some rocks.
Speaker C:Like he's on a.
Speaker B:He moved some rocks.
Speaker C:Ron.
Speaker B:Ron did some manual labor like a.
Speaker A:Muggle and then took care of a baby man.
Speaker A:So just, just follow the.
Speaker A:Follow the phoenix, man.
Speaker A:You said the f.
Speaker A:Where that bird come from.
Speaker A:Just follow the out of here.
Speaker C:They all grab on to Fox's tail.
Speaker C:They kind of do like a chain, a daisy chain up.
Speaker C:Fox flies them up like it's nothing with some music.
Speaker C:His, his walkout music is playing as they go.
Speaker C:You know, John Cena sucks, whatever, and he takes him out of the chamber.
Speaker C:They end up back in Moaning Myrtle's bathroom.
Speaker C:And moaning's like.
Speaker C:She's like, oh, you.
Speaker C:You didn't die.
Speaker C:Okay, well, Harry, if you do want to die, you can hang out with me in my bathroom.
Speaker C:So Harry got himself a new little girlfriend.
Speaker A:Thanks, Myrtle.
Speaker A:Appreciate it.
Speaker A:We're not going to do that.
Speaker A:But thank you though for the idea and the concept.
Speaker C:But nah.
Speaker C:And then appreciate that for you.
Speaker B:Yeah, see you never again.
Speaker C:Fox leads them from Moaning Myrtle's bathroom to McGonagall's office.
Speaker C:And that's how chapter 17 ends.
Speaker C:So Fox basically did all the work.
Speaker C:Anyways.
Speaker A:Fox did do.
Speaker A:Okay, so down there, the people of consequence.
Speaker A:Fox does a lot of heavy lifting.
Speaker A:Harry does some.
Speaker A:And Ron moves some rocks.
Speaker B:Yeah, Ron did the most heavy lift thing, to be honest.
Speaker C:Blew them all back up.
Speaker C:Miles and miles and miles up that pipe.
Speaker C:So I don't think Ron can the number one heavy lift.
Speaker A:That's true.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:But Fox only did one lift.
Speaker B:He just kept going up.
Speaker A:Ron, all of them, they were heavier than those rocks that Ron moved.
Speaker B:Yeah, but how many reps did Ron do?
Speaker C:How many reps?
Speaker A:How many.
Speaker A:I'm sorry, how many listed number of reps.
Speaker A:That's why I'd say, excuse me, because we have three.
Speaker A:We have one full grown adult baby man.
Speaker C:Three children.
Speaker A:Two children, boys and one girl.
Speaker A:That's like.
Speaker C:No, she walks back.
Speaker B:Yeah, she's come to.
Speaker B:At this point.
Speaker A:She's come around.
Speaker B:We're talking about moving.
Speaker B:Let's say, let's say Lockhart's £200.
Speaker B:Each of the kids are £60.
Speaker B:That's £380.
Speaker C:£200.
Speaker B:Like that's heavy.
Speaker C:But that's not that heavy.
Speaker D:I think a 12 year old is 60 pounds.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:You think a 12 year old is 60 lbs.
Speaker C:Your dogs are 60 pounds, C.J.
Speaker B:Actually one of my dogs is 80 pounds.
Speaker B:He's, he's chunky.
Speaker A:So you think these children are way less than that dog.
Speaker B:So let's say it's what, £450, £500 accumulatively.
Speaker A:You don't think Ron.
Speaker C:£500 of rocks?
Speaker D:I don't think Ron.
Speaker A:Not even for a little bit.
Speaker C:Let's be real here.
Speaker A:He probably moved about 20 and then that was enough for Ron for Harry to squeeze through.
Speaker B:And the leader of the Ron don't do train.
Speaker B:I think Ron here.
Speaker A:Are you the leader?
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:I feel like I'm the leader.
Speaker B:I don't know why, how I ended up in a position to defend Ron here.
Speaker A:Like I said, I think I'm the leader of Ron.
Speaker A:Ain't done.
Speaker C:All right, let's, let's wrap this up.
Speaker C:So we're in the Last chapter, chapter 18, Dobby's reward.
Speaker C:Yes, Dobby, Re will be back.
Speaker C:So they walk into McGonagall's office and the Weasleys are already there and they see Jenny and Molly and Arthur are like, ah.
Speaker C:They immediately run to her and they're, they're hugging her like oh my gosh.
Speaker C:And Harry looks past them because Dumbledore also happens to be in the office and as we know, he was just ousted so he's surprised to see him there.
Speaker C:And Madonna goes there and she looks like she's about to have a panic attack.
Speaker C:So I don't know what they were talking about before.
Speaker C:Maybe Molly went ham on her for losing her daughter.
Speaker C:Who knows?
Speaker C:But now they're back in there and after they're done hugging up Jenny they run to Ron and Harry and they're hugging them and like, how did you do it?
Speaker C:How did you solve this whole thing?
Speaker C:So Harry Potter sets down all his swag, right?
Speaker C:He sets down the sword, he sets down the diary, he sets down the Sorting Hat and he tells them the whole thing.
Speaker C:As he's telling the story, he's trying to kind of twist it in the way so that Jenny doesn't get in trouble because remember, she's very worried about being expelled.
Speaker C:And Dumbledore picks it up and goes, oh wow, I can't believe Voldemort did this again.
Speaker C:Basically blamed it on Voldemort.
Speaker C:And Harry was like, oh thank God.
Speaker C:Yeah, Voldemort did it.
Speaker C:But with this, this, this journal which we know as a Horcrux, they're like, this.
Speaker C:This.
Speaker C:We don't know what this is, but we can tell it's dark magic.
Speaker C:And then Molly Weasley goes.
Speaker C:Molly Weasley on Jenny going, I told you, if you can't find its brain, then you need to leave it the hell alone.
Speaker C:And when I read that, it made me think of cell phones.
Speaker C:I was like, huh?
Speaker C:Well, sorry.
Speaker C:Sorry, Molly.
Speaker C:I already love my cell phone.
Speaker A:Was it Molly or Molly or Arthur?
Speaker A:Because I thought it was Arthur.
Speaker D:Because I was like, it was Arthur.
Speaker A:I think it was Arthur.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And as a Kim, I was like, at what point, Arthur, have you told any of these kids that they should not be doing some.
Speaker A:When you made a car fly in sentient, right?
Speaker A:Like, you made a car fly and sentient.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:And you are now saying, didn't I tell you about.
Speaker A:Bruh, you didn't tell me you were in the ground.
Speaker C:I was Mr.
Speaker C:Weasley.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And I'm like, bruh, you ain't tell these kids.
Speaker A:So it's not even like a do as I say, don't do as I do.
Speaker A:You made a car living.
Speaker C:Well, that is a do as I say, not as I do type situation.
Speaker A:I'm sure you ain't said nothing to them.
Speaker A:I'm sure he ain't said nothing to them.
Speaker A:He, like, looked around, saw those adults here, other adults, and he's like, didn't I tell y'all not to be doing that in that house?
Speaker A:But in reality, he never said.
Speaker C:So.
Speaker C:Harry explains, you know, about the diary.
Speaker C:And Dumbledore is, like, brilliant.
Speaker C:And this is where Dumbledore's headgears start turning like, how is this accomplished?
Speaker C:He's starting to realize something more is going on here.
Speaker C:And we.
Speaker C:And this is where I feel he starts kind of looking into things a little bit more with what Voldemort was doing back when he was at Hogwarts.
Speaker C:Anyway, so he.
Speaker C:And he tells them about Tom Riddle and the fact that Tom Riddle was Voldemort and he knew the whole time and told no one.
Speaker C:And he talks about how he was one of the most brilliant students Hogwarts has ever, or the most brilliant student Hogwarts had ever seen.
Speaker C:And yet he didn't find it in himself to tell everybody else before this who Voldemort really was.
Speaker C:But, okay, whatever.
Speaker A:And it.
Speaker B:It makes me wonder how much Dumbledore picked off a Tom when he was there by Aquamancy.
Speaker B:Because I think that he figured out the diary plot real quick just by looking at Harry when Harry's trying to fi.
Speaker B:Looking at Dumbledore like how do I get Jenny out of trouble?
Speaker B:I think he just read his mind real quick and said oh, so this is what happened.
Speaker B:And like we don't get occupancy till way later in the series.
Speaker B:But I think Dumbledore knew about Tom and couldn't prove it then because all he had was reading his mind.
Speaker B:And I think Dumbledore figures everything out by reading Harry's mind about two seconds here probably.
Speaker C:He probably has some sort of suspension suspicion especially with the Chamber of Secret stuff.
Speaker C:Like he already knew that Voldemort was the Heir of Salazar Slytherin.
Speaker C:So it.
Speaker C:He probably was like huh?
Speaker C:Who if it's not Voldemort?
Speaker C:Who?
Speaker C:And then when this kind he's like ah, it was still Voldemort.
Speaker C:So they're fussing at Jenny and so daughter tries to save her by saying, oh, you know, she's been through a lot, take it to the hospital wing.
Speaker C:They also got the mandrake root stuff together.
Speaker C:So people are starting to wake up and they're de petrifying them.
Speaker C:So go ahead, get out of here.
Speaker C:So they take her and go.
Speaker C:And we're left with Ron, Harry and Gilderoy.
Speaker C:And he's like, hey Gilderoy, you're.
Speaker C:You're kind of being quiet behind there.
Speaker C:Oh, wait, before that he says Jenny, you're not in trouble.
Speaker C:And he says to the boys, I'm gonna give you.
Speaker C:You're not in trouble either.
Speaker C:I'm Gonna give you 200 points from Gryffindor and you're both gonna get a special award, awards for service in the school.
Speaker C:Which are the same award that Tom Riddle got 50 years ago.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker B:But it makes me wonder if Tom riddle also got 300 points maybe for Slytherin because Harry and Ron got 200 points each and all Ron did was move some rocks.
Speaker A:How did Ron.
Speaker A:200 points.
Speaker C:He was just there.
Speaker D:Right place, right time.
Speaker B:Like I understand that this is the time in the book where we get the special Dumbledore math, but this is pretty thin.
Speaker B:He got 50 points for playing the best game of wizard chess in Hogwarts history.
Speaker B:But he got 200 points removing rocks.
Speaker D:Yeah, he doesn't know what exactly happened, but he was down there and this.
Speaker A:Man, he looked right in his man's mind.
Speaker D:I want your points to Griffin.
Speaker C:Hogwarts was not in trouble or in danger of shutting down last year.
Speaker C:The Hogwarts was about to be done and they saved it.
Speaker C:That might be worth four times 50.
Speaker C:I'm just saying he jumped his ass.
Speaker D:Down that pipe because I don't know about y'all.
Speaker A:I don't.
Speaker D:I wouldn't have been down the pipe.
Speaker D:Dare say, I don't think Angelina Johnson would have jumped down the pipe.
Speaker B:Angelina would have.
Speaker C:Y'all jumped down the pipe.
Speaker A:I would have wrote it out.
Speaker A:I would have wrote an L, and my ass would have been back home.
Speaker C:Exactly.
Speaker D:So you know why ron got the 200 points.
Speaker C:We wouldn't have got that this far.
Speaker C:We would not have got to the end of the school year before this would have been dealt with.
Speaker C:That's all I'm gonna say.
Speaker B:I'm surprised Dean was still there.
Speaker B:He, like, he should have looked around and been like, I've seen these movies.
Speaker D:I'm out, right?
Speaker A:Dear, Dear mom, another kid went missing.
Speaker D:I gotta come home.
Speaker A:I'll be arriving post haste.
Speaker C:Y'all need to come pick me up.
Speaker D:Listen, you go home for Christmas and don't come back.
Speaker A:You know what?
Speaker A:Y'all handle that.
Speaker B:But for real, though, going back to Dumbledore's, ay, He looks at Harry.
Speaker B:He gets all of the information at Harry's, like, okay, so this happened.
Speaker B:This happened.
Speaker B:Okay, cool, cool, cool.
Speaker B:Then he looks at Ronnie, goes, you move some rocks.
Speaker B:Okay?
Speaker B:Like, that's all Ron did when he read it.
Speaker A:Real question, why did Hermione not collect any points for actually figuring out all the things to get down there?
Speaker C:They always do her wrong.
Speaker D:Doesn't she get some at the feast?
Speaker C:No, I thought she got some at the feast.
Speaker C:And remember, no more Quidditch games.
Speaker C:And everything else has been suspended.
Speaker C:So these 400 points pretty much guarantees they've won.
Speaker A:They swung the house cup.
Speaker C:They got the house.
Speaker A:They swung the house cup.
Speaker A:Dumbledore math I do love, though.
Speaker A:I do love the moment that everything gets finished.
Speaker A:He's like, to.
Speaker A:To Minerva, I think it's time for a feast.
Speaker C:Man, I'm a little hungry.
Speaker C:Why don't you go set that up?
Speaker C:Get out.
Speaker C:She's like.
Speaker A:You'Ve been here for 10 minutes.
Speaker A:And said, first thing you said, I'm neat.
Speaker A:Everybody ready?
Speaker D:That's so sexist.
Speaker D:Why are we sending Minerva off to set up the feast?
Speaker D:Like, we don't have a admin assistant.
Speaker C:He's trying to get people out.
Speaker C:First of all, she is his.
Speaker C:Second, he's trying to get them out of the room.
Speaker C:I'm just saying, he sends Ron and Gilderoy to the hospital wing as well.
Speaker C:And it's just him and Harry.
Speaker C:Left.
Speaker C:And they have the talk, all the talk to wrap it up.
Speaker A:Well listen Harry, there's.
Speaker A:There's a time when a man and a woman.
Speaker C:So first d.
Speaker C:Thanks Harry for his loyalty.
Speaker C:He's like there's only way that Fox would come and have solved all this for you is if you had shown me real loyalty.
Speaker C:Good job and being a suck up otherwise Fox wouldn't have saved your life.
Speaker C:Then he, Harry brings up the fact that him and Tom Riddle share a lot of strange likenesses in the, in Harry's worried that he's a Slytherin so he hasn't even shared this with Ron and Hermione.
Speaker C:So he finally tells Dumbledore like hey, I think I'm a Slytherin.
Speaker C:And Dumbledore's like well you know, I could see why you would think that.
Speaker C:You do speak sp.
Speaker C:Parsel tongue.
Speaker C:Why?
Speaker C:Because Voldemort spoke parcel tongue.
Speaker C:And this is where he says, he says that he believes Voldemort transferred some of his powers to Harry Potter.
Speaker C:And Harry's like he.
Speaker C:He transfers some of self into me.
Speaker C:He's like yes, he didn't mean to, but something happened the night you were born.
Speaker C:So again, Dumbledore's gears are already turning.
Speaker C:He's trying to put this together.
Speaker C:He's like, you can do these things because he could.
Speaker C:But the difference between you are your choices.
Speaker C:You're not, you're not in Slytherin because you didn't want to be.
Speaker C:You chose a different path and that's the important thing.
Speaker C:Then he pulls up, he says, and here's how you know that you are where you're supposed to be.
Speaker C:He pulls the sword and Harry looks at it and he sees that it is Godric Gryffindor sword.
Speaker C:He's like only a true Gryffindor can pull that out of the hat.
Speaker C:So we know Harry is a Gryffindor even though he has Slytherin tendencies.
Speaker C:He has a Slytherin moon or something.
Speaker C:Sure.
Speaker C:So Dumbledore decides to write Azkaban to get Hagrid back and that just.
Speaker C:And he's like okay, we're about to have a feast, Harry, go eat.
Speaker C:And just as Harry's about to leave, who busts in but Lucius Malfoy?
Speaker C:And who's following him in but Dobby the house elf.
Speaker C:So clearly your boy.
Speaker C:So, so clearly Lucian rush over quickly because his hair is all messed up and Dobby's trying to finish shining his shoes and, and he can't get to it.
Speaker C:So Lucius is like what the Hell you doing back here, Dumbledore?
Speaker C:Dumbledore's like, Well, I got 11 owls from all the other governors begging me to come back because they thought a Pure Blood had got killed in the Chamber of Secrets, and they knew I was the one who could deal with it.
Speaker C:And they also told me the only reason why they sent me off in the first place is because they thought you were gonna curse their families.
Speaker C:So Lucius is a little shook because he didn't expect Dumbledore to come at him like that.
Speaker C:He's like, okay, well, did you solve it?
Speaker C:And Dumbledore goes, yeah, we did.
Speaker C:I'm like, we, Dumbledore?
Speaker A:We listen.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Just like Ron said, we saved my sister.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker C:So Dumbledore takes some credit.
Speaker C:Fine, whatever.
Speaker C:I guess it was his Phoenix.
Speaker C:Anyway, so he.
Speaker C:And then he's like, oh, so who was it?
Speaker C:And he goes, it was Voldemort.
Speaker C:But this time he did it through one of his school items.
Speaker C:And then this is where he brings up.
Speaker C:He's like, someone got this in here.
Speaker C:And he's watching Lucius because he knows Lucius did.
Speaker C:And he's watching him closely, as we know, going back to the Occlumency.
Speaker C:He's clearly trying to get through to Lucius's thoughts to figure out, what the hell are you up to, my guy?
Speaker C:So as he's doing that, Harry's looking at Dobby because Dobby, okay, Dobby is literally pointing at the journal, pointing at Lucius Malfoy, and then having to hurt himself for revealing truths, because we know he doesn't.
Speaker C:But he does this several times and it takes Harry so, so long to figure out what he's trying to say.
Speaker C:So as he's trying to figure out Dobby Dumbledore basically threatens him and says, it'd be interesting what would have happened if it had gotten out that Ginny Weasley of Pure Blood had been attacking Muggle borns.
Speaker C:What would have happened to Arthur Weasley's Muggle protections legislation if that had gotten out?
Speaker C:Good thing that didn't happen, because there might have been bad consequences.
Speaker C:So he's basically accusing Lucius, or basically telling Lucius, I know you did this on purpose because you didn't like that Arthur Weasley was coming for you, so you decided to have his daughter, a Pure Blood wizard, attacking Muggle Borns, which would, of course, shamed him, disgraced him, and it would have been the end of his Muggle Protection act ruling.
Speaker C:So Dumbledore is basically calling them out right there.
Speaker C:And at this point, Harry finally figures out what dobby's trying to say to him.
Speaker C:And he's like, hey, don't you wonder, Mr.
Speaker C:Malfoy, how this journal got to Jenny?
Speaker C:Lucius is like, what?
Speaker C:What?
Speaker C:And he's like, I know you put it in her.
Speaker C:In her cauldron in flourishing box.
Speaker C:You gave it to her.
Speaker C:And Lucius goes, prove it.
Speaker C:Which basically is him admitting that yes, he.
Speaker C:And he did it.
Speaker C:Like.
Speaker A:Not a no.
Speaker A:Yeah, not a no.
Speaker A:You can't prove that.
Speaker A:Can't.
Speaker A:That won't send up the court.
Speaker C:Threatens him again and basically says, no more of Tom Riddle's better find its way back here.
Speaker C:Are we gonna have to catch me outside?
Speaker C:So I think so.
Speaker C:We know Dumbledore has hands.
Speaker C:And then he proves it here.
Speaker C:Like, now we know Dumbledore has hands because he's like, let's go, Lucius.
Speaker C:Like, don't let this happen again or we gonna have problems.
Speaker C:Anyway, so Lucius is like, whatever.
Speaker C:And he goes to leave, and as he's going, Harry's like, hey, can I grab that.
Speaker C:That diary?
Speaker C:And then he takes off his nasty ass sock.
Speaker C:It's like soaked in slime and blood and everything else.
Speaker C:He puts it into the diary and rushes out after Lucius and goes, here, this is yours.
Speaker C:And he shoves it in his hand.
Speaker C:Lucius takes the socks out and throws it.
Speaker C:And who catches it?
Speaker C:Dobby.
Speaker D:My boy, Dobby.
Speaker A:So when.
Speaker A:When he.
Speaker A:When he hands him, he takes his sock off and he puts it in there and he does the Mean Joe Green and he gives it to him.
Speaker A:He says, hey, kid.
Speaker A:He passes it to him.
Speaker A:I love that.
Speaker A:Luchas is like, fuck this sock.
Speaker A:And Dobby out here diving to the ground, making sure he catches it.
Speaker A:But then afterwards, when Lucius is like, let's go, elf.
Speaker A:He's like, master gave me a sock.
Speaker A:He threw the sock and I caught it.
Speaker A:No, dog, he just knew it.
Speaker A:And you saw an opportunity.
Speaker C:Hey.
Speaker C:And you know what?
Speaker C:Just the one time, I'm like, you know what?
Speaker C:Dobby, Go ahead.
Speaker C:Go ahead.
Speaker C:So.
Speaker C:So Dobby has disgusting sock.
Speaker C:And he's like, you gave me a sock.
Speaker C:He gave me a sock.
Speaker C:I'm free.
Speaker C:And so Lucia's like, you lost me, my servant.
Speaker C:So he goes to bum rush Harry.
Speaker C:Dobby snaps his finger and he goes flying down the stairs.
Speaker C:Stairs.
Speaker C:And he gets up, pulls his wand.
Speaker C:Dobby's like, he didn't say the magic word.
Speaker C:But he's like, you're not going to threaten Harry Potter.
Speaker C:You better get your ass out of here.
Speaker C:Because we know house elves are much more magical than wizards.
Speaker A:That's not what he said.
Speaker A:He threw him down the steps and said, you got a problem with Harry, you got a problem with me.
Speaker A:He's got this big chest.
Speaker C:His got better, his tax improved.
Speaker A:If you have a problem with Harry Potter, you got a problem with me now.
Speaker A:You hear me?
Speaker A:You ain't gonna touch him or else you got to deal with me.
Speaker A:That's what happened.
Speaker A:And he, and then Luc is like, well, damn dog.
Speaker A:Yeah, man, I can't, I can't ever.
Speaker C:Know Lucious is a coward because he slinks his ass on out move.
Speaker A:If this dude just snapped his finger, threw you across the room and you know, and you know, you know, the.
Speaker C:You'Ve been doing this, this powerful creature and under his control and she could, he could feel like a big man to treat it like and abusing all that.
Speaker C:When the, the handcuffs, the handlebars, whatever are taken off, all of a sudden he's, he's slinking out the damn door.
Speaker C:So yeah, he's a big ass coward.
Speaker A:Choose on the other right foot now, right?
Speaker A:What do you want to do now?
Speaker A:And that's, that's, it's.
Speaker A:I, I don't know if it's a coward move because you know how he treated him.
Speaker A:He's like, all right, listen, this house stuff could me up now.
Speaker A:So there's probably.
Speaker A:He's not someone I want to with anymore.
Speaker A:He's like, yeah, get on.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:Because his house elf was always more powerful than him, but he, but that's what makes him a coward.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker A:But he, he didn't think he would ever free smoker.
Speaker A:This freeing was on accident.
Speaker A:This was not a planned freeing.
Speaker B:Yeah, he was very caught off guard.
Speaker B:First by being caught with the diary, then by his elf being set free.
Speaker B:Like, dude needs to regroup, he needs some time.
Speaker C:He was going to be going up 12 year old.
Speaker C:All of a sudden his wand came out quick though.
Speaker C:Right, right, right.
Speaker D:Very true.
Speaker C:Now he didn't need to regroup then.
Speaker B:He didn't know Harry had expelliarness like that.
Speaker B:So he was ready to go.
Speaker A:Well, that's first off.
Speaker A:This happens like an hour ago.
Speaker A:You told me we can't be just continuing to talk about this kid being 12.
Speaker A:Lucius didn't care he was 12.
Speaker A:He said, you're a big man now, Harry.
Speaker A:You're a big man now.
Speaker C:12 year old, the 16 same way y'all did.
Speaker C:And was like, ah, he ain't nothing but 12.
Speaker C:He weighs less than CJ's dog.
Speaker C:I got this.
Speaker C:Let's go.
Speaker C:And then D was like, oh, no.
Speaker C:Oh, no.
Speaker C:They had that tag.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:This is a tag team, son.
Speaker C:What you got?
Speaker A:This is what.
Speaker A:This is what, on me or your ass?
Speaker A:That's what this is.
Speaker A:That's it.
Speaker C:Y got issues.
Speaker A:Wait a minute.
Speaker A:We got issues.
Speaker A:You're the only one that's.
Speaker A:That's over here caping for D.
Speaker A:You now all of a sudden.
Speaker D:All the time.
Speaker C:Crazy.
Speaker D:All the time.
Speaker C:So.
Speaker C:Lucious, please.
Speaker D:And Harry.
Speaker C:Harry basically says to Dobby, you said this had nothing to do with Voldemort.
Speaker A:That.
Speaker C:But it really did.
Speaker C:He's like, yeah, but, you know, you can't save Voldemort, but you could save Tom Riddle, right?
Speaker C:So that was a good clue.
Speaker C:And K's like, nah, nah, dog.
Speaker C:It was not a good clue.
Speaker B:Here's the thing, though.
Speaker B:It was actually an excellent clue.
Speaker B:If people had done their homework.
Speaker C:Tom Riddle and Voldemort were the same, but people didn't know that.
Speaker C:Only the closest people.
Speaker C:So Dobby would know because he's in a deafness, right?
Speaker A:This dude's been in this world for a year.
Speaker A:He don't.
Speaker A:How he gonna know this?
Speaker B:Because teaching it in school.
Speaker C:And Dobby clearly doesn't know how the world works because he didn't realize that everybody didn't know that Tom Riddle, Voldemort were the same person.
Speaker C:But he's in a Death Eater, so he has that information, right?
Speaker C:He knows that the diary is.
Speaker C:Is crazy.
Speaker C:Whatever.
Speaker C:So then he makes Dobby.
Speaker C:Now, this is key.
Speaker C:He makes Dobby promise not to try to save his life again.
Speaker C:Keep that in mind.
Speaker C:And in five books, we'll revisit.
Speaker C:Anyways, so Dobby celebrates.
Speaker C:He's like, ah.
Speaker C:And he goes off to, like, go and live his life.
Speaker C:Harry goes to the feast.
Speaker C:And a quick ending.
Speaker C:Everybody's back.
Speaker C:Hermione's back.
Speaker C:Justin Finch, Fletchley's back.
Speaker C:Colin Creevey's back.
Speaker C:Hagrid's even back.
Speaker C:Justin.
Speaker C:JFF apologizes to Harry.
Speaker C:The Gryffindors win the house cup, of course, because nobody else got any points.
Speaker C:McGonagall cancels all the exams because now they don't have to justify their existence anymore.
Speaker C:So.
Speaker C:Oh, all that learning.
Speaker C:We don't have to try to stay open.
Speaker C:We're good.
Speaker C:No more exams.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker B:And this is why all the Petrified kids didn't have to apply for the New Child Left Behind.
Speaker B:They just get to move up.
Speaker A:Everyone was.
Speaker A:You know.
Speaker A:You know what's so funny, though, is that this chapter, this part of the chapter is like, the ending of SNL when everybody's just standing on stage and clapping the Roots.
Speaker A:Everybody else is like, there for the day.
Speaker A:That's kind of like how Justin Fish, Fletchley.
Speaker A:We got.
Speaker A:We got Jenny Weasley, Hermione Granger, Colin Cravy.
Speaker A:Everybody's clapping just like, oh, my God, what a great day.
Speaker B:Yeah, like, you got.
Speaker B:You got to get it all in before the music starts.
Speaker C:We learned that Lucius Malfoy is kicked off of the governor's board, obviously since they don't want to be cursed by him and they can't trust him.
Speaker C:And Draco's all sad about he big mad because he's not the big man on campus.
Speaker C:He don't have extra protection.
Speaker C:Ginny Weasley has recovered and she's happy again because she's no longer enthralled to an old journal.
Speaker C:And we find that the thing that Percy thought Jenny was going to tell was that he was snogging that Ravenclaw, Penelope Clearwater, the one who got petrified with Hermione, which we already knew back at Christmas because they both were down in them dungeons.
Speaker C:Y'all ain't got no business being down them dungeons together.
Speaker A:Jenny walked on them.
Speaker A:On them.
Speaker A:It.
Speaker A:She.
Speaker C:Probably.
Speaker C:She probably did.
Speaker A:That's what happened.
Speaker C:But it's.
Speaker C:It is a children's book.
Speaker C:So they said kissing and then this time Harry's smart enough to give Hermione and Ron his phone number so next time they don't have to rely on owls getting to him.
Speaker D:Do we really think that the Dursleys are going to let him use the phone?
Speaker C:We'll find out his number.
Speaker C:And that's the end of the book.
Speaker C:We made it, guys.
Speaker D:I like the book.
Speaker C:I like it too.
Speaker C:This just isn't the best.
Speaker C:The best book.
Speaker C:We.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:I don't dislike the book.
Speaker B:It's just the worst one.
Speaker A:I mean, that.
Speaker A:That's.
Speaker A:I thought the book was meh.
Speaker A:But there's just so much good coming after this.
Speaker A:I do want to talk about.
Speaker A:We have a couple things, people that need some justice.
Speaker A:I feel like, based on these chapters in this book as a whole.
Speaker A:Shantae and cj, I'm gonna let you guys go ahead and present first, who do you guys feel deserves some justice for this episode?
Speaker B:Fox.
Speaker B:Fox deserves justice.
Speaker B:Fox does literally everything.
Speaker C:They broke his take out.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:First he comes in clutch with the sword and hat.
Speaker B:Then he pecks out the eyes of the basilisk.
Speaker B:Then when Harry's about to die, he saves his life.
Speaker B:Then when they can't figure out how to get out of the chamber once everything has been done.
Speaker C:He's about to die again.
Speaker C:He drops the journal.
Speaker C:So he knows how to get rid of Tom Riddle.
Speaker B:That's right.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And then he carries him out.
Speaker B:Fox does a lot of heavy lifting that chapter.
Speaker B:And then what happens when they get back and the story is told?
Speaker B:Harry and Ron get 200 points.
Speaker B:What does Fox get?
Speaker B:Nothing.
Speaker C:Probably want a cracker.
Speaker C:They didn't give Fox nothing.
Speaker D:What would you give?
Speaker C:What do Phoenixes eat?
Speaker C:Maybe a new house.
Speaker C:I don't know.
Speaker C:Put his poster.
Speaker C:Put his poster on the Gryffindor while they're.
Speaker C:They're celebrating that feast post.
Speaker C:Put Fox's poster up there too.
Speaker C:Let him come down.
Speaker C:He don't go to the base.
Speaker B:Fox is out here listening for loyalty to Dumbledore.
Speaker B:Harry shows it.
Speaker B:So he comes running like, I'm gonna help you, Harry.
Speaker B:Don't worry, I got you.
Speaker B:And then Harry just like, he's like, oh yeah, Fox helped me.
Speaker B:I guess I did most of the work down there.
Speaker B:Give me my 200 points.
Speaker B:Give me my special services.
Speaker D:I think he told in great detail with the.
Speaker C:Nobody is giving Fox any accolades.
Speaker C:This is like a group project where you did all the work and at the 11th hour someone comes to put their name on top of yours on the paper.
Speaker C:It's not right.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:You know, Rob went up there and wrote his name first on top of the page.
Speaker C:Fox was able to get down.
Speaker C:He didn't even have to go through the little pipe in the Chamber secrets.
Speaker C:He's able to just materialize himself right on down there.
Speaker C:Take care of business.
Speaker C:I, I assert that even without Harry getting that sword, Fox could have taken that basilisk out and it would have been a wrap.
Speaker C:They didn't need Harry at all.
Speaker B:Because Harry, because here's the thing called in air support.
Speaker B:Air support in, in ground warfare.
Speaker B:You're not taking out air support.
Speaker B:Fox mvp.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:So, okay, okay.
Speaker D:All right.
Speaker A:I think that the person that deserves the most justice is Ginny Weasley.
Speaker A:Ginny Weasley throughout this book is in the background.
Speaker A:She's being moving through.
Speaker A:We see her glimpses here and there.
Speaker A:And then right here she gets quote unquote taken because she writes and paint herself because he compels her to basically the Tom Riddle.
Speaker A:And she says even through her tears, she wrote that she was going to be taken, that she was taken.
Speaker A:And he takes her down there and knocks her ass out.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:I guess he drains her life force.
Speaker A:Jenny come while he's telling his story.
Speaker A:Tom Riddle is.
Speaker A:He talks about how Jenny knows that something weird is going on but doesn't quite know what it is.
Speaker A:She thought that she needed a friend because she's an 11 year old child.
Speaker A:I know Shantae doesn't like me to mention their ages, but that's important here because she's at a new school for the first time.
Speaker A:She has a six brothers that she needs to like live up to including and also her parents.
Speaker A:So she's very nervous about what's going on here.
Speaker A:We ain't know no one else.
Speaker A:Hasn't Colin Creevey in her grade here.
Speaker A:So she by herself.
Speaker A:So she is confiding in this diary and even then she's like, something's not right here.
Speaker A:Why did I wake up with pain on my hands?
Speaker A:Why don't I remember what happened on Halloween?
Speaker A:What is going on in my life?
Speaker A:She then tries to flush the diary because she has the wherewithal at 11 to be like, this is not adding up.
Speaker A:Let me get rid of this thing.
Speaker A:She tries to get rid of it.
Speaker A:She then sees that Harry has it and says, well, I gotta get this from him because this is not good for him neither Puts it back in her own possession because she thinks that maybe I can control what's going on here.
Speaker A:She can't, unfortunately.
Speaker A:But she deserves justice for recognizing what was happening to her during the time and trying to do something to change things for everyone.
Speaker A:Because she doesn't love what's happening because she didn't know.
Speaker A:That's how we got here.
Speaker A:These are all the reasons I think we need to give some justice and respect on Ginny Weasley's name and she deserves justice at this time.
Speaker A:Thank you, Natasha.
Speaker A:You make.
Speaker D:Go ahead, Shantay.
Speaker D:She had a rebuttal there.
Speaker C:I'm gonna say, well, fine.
Speaker C:I'm gonna say that Jenny got her justice when the diary was destroyed and she got off without any repercussions.
Speaker C:She didn't get expelled.
Speaker C:She didn't get any points taken off from Gryffindor.
Speaker C:She got to go see her parents and go have some a feast.
Speaker C:And she was happy at that feast, which was that same night.
Speaker C:It was like an hour later.
Speaker C:She's happy as a clam.
Speaker C:Doing okay.
Speaker C:Like I, I feel like she did need justice and they.
Speaker C:Fox got it for her.
Speaker C:Thank you, Fox.
Speaker C:And now she got off and was happy and having cakes and ice cream with her friends.
Speaker A:I think Spocks got justice.
Speaker B:Side note, can we talk about the fact that the Weasley Parents were up there and could have taken all the kids home.
Speaker B:And they said now y'all stay at school for a few extra days where nothing's gonna happen because we don't want you here and we still need your father.
Speaker A:This is true.
Speaker A:Wait, I, I, I believe Fox also received justice because though Harry gets the quote unquote credit in the terms of points, Dumbledore acknowledges that if you guys didn't show that extreme loyal to me, loyalty to me, my bird wouldn't have came down there and helped you out.
Speaker A:Shouts to my bird.
Speaker C:He didn't say shouts to my bird.
Speaker C:He said thank you, Harry.
Speaker C:Thank you Harry for showing loyalty to me.
Speaker A:Because he, because he's talking to Harry work for you?
Speaker C:He didn't say great job.
Speaker A:He knows.
Speaker C:Good job to you too, Harry.
Speaker C:At no point did he show any acknowledgment to the bird.
Speaker A:In addition, Fox, if she, if Fox just apparate into the chamber, why hasn't Fox gone down there and taken care of his bassist before?
Speaker A:That's what I want to know.
Speaker A:If Fox knows.
Speaker A:Listen, we, we could put Dumbledore on trial for a lot of things, including this.
Speaker C:Putting more responsibility on Fox of Phoenix than you're putting on the humans who have been in Hogwarts for thousands of years, millennia.
Speaker C:That changed.
Speaker A:I'm not, I will say this.
Speaker D:Fox had choice here.
Speaker D:He chose to go where someone was being loyal to Dumbledore.
Speaker D:He was not asked.
Speaker D:He wasn't made to go.
Speaker D:He chose to show up and bring tools.
Speaker D:So he did in fact save the day.
Speaker D:But he wasn't like forced to go down there.
Speaker C:So, so I, I love that you acknowledged that Fox went more prepared than Harry into that chamber.
Speaker C:Fox went in ready to do work and Harry went in ready to die.
Speaker C:That's what Harry's good for.
Speaker D:You wanted Harry.
Speaker D:You wanted the 12 year old who doesn't know what he's walking into to be more prepared than the magical bird.
Speaker C:I, a 12 year old who always puts, who always walks into things.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker C:I would like a sentient human to be more prepared than a bird.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker C:I would love the 12 year old.
Speaker B:No, because he has a mar and.
Speaker C:Looks for trouble to go in and be more.
Speaker D:He does not have a Martyr complex.
Speaker B:Harry 100% has a martyr complex.
Speaker B:Because in every book he wants to go at it alone.
Speaker B:He doesn't want help because he's ready to die.
Speaker A:Wait a minute.
Speaker D:Forced into that position over and over again.
Speaker A:Objection.
Speaker A:Objection.
Speaker A:Harry Potter is not on trial here.
Speaker A:Guys, we're talking About Fox versus Jenny, who had.
Speaker D:And we're also talking about the basilisk.
Speaker A:Oh, my gosh.
Speaker A:Explain here, Kevin.
Speaker C:I think the fact that she has left you means that Jenny's off the table.
Speaker A:Oh, I was, I was.
Speaker A:No, no, no, no, no.
Speaker A:I don't think we're doing this together.
Speaker A:I think this is always a three man weave.
Speaker D:It was always over.
Speaker D:Listen here.
Speaker D:Let's talk about the person, let's talk about the being here that had absolutely no choice from the beginning.
Speaker D:Number one, a basilisk is hatching an egg that's under a toad, right?
Speaker D:So somebody had to, first of all, steal this egg from its toad.
Speaker D:What would I want to call it?
Speaker B:It's a chicken egg.
Speaker B:They have to steal it.
Speaker B:They have to hatch a chicken egg under a toad.
Speaker D:They had to steal it from its caretaker and put it in this chamber right from the very beginning.
Speaker D:Because how did the basilisk get down there?
Speaker D:Right?
Speaker D:We're essentially saying that somebody, you know, picked up a pit bull puppy, right?
Speaker D:Trained it up to be a snarling, hunting, man killing beast, right?
Speaker D:And then left it caged up in a chamber for over a hundred years.
Speaker D:At least 100 years.
Speaker D:Right?
Speaker D:Because that's how I get this.
Speaker D:So, and then.
Speaker D:And then we have Tom Riddle, who's down there manipulating the basilisk to come out and kill children.
Speaker D:It wasn't its choice to kill children.
Speaker D:It's its nature.
Speaker D:It's like putting a polar bear in a room full of people and it hasn't eaten all winter.
Speaker D:And it's like, hey, I'm hungry.
Speaker D:Is it the polar bear's fault or the people's fault for putting it in the room?
Speaker D:That's all I'm gonna say.
Speaker D:Third thing is fox.
Speaker D:We go to Fox, right?
Speaker D:The bass is down there living as bass.
Speaker D:Looks like it needs to see.
Speaker D:Fox comes down, gouges his eyes out.
Speaker D:No, he can't see to find food.
Speaker D:Okay, Fox brings us forward.
Speaker D:Oh, exactly.
Speaker C:Doesn't need to find food because Fox.
Speaker D:Also brings a murder weapon, drops it down, and then Harry is, of course, put in this position again, you know, versus him, versus the basilisk.
Speaker D:I understand, Harry, but was Fox in the right here?
Speaker D:Did the basilisk need to die?
Speaker D:I don't know.
Speaker D:Maybe just Tom Ru.
Speaker D:Maybe all we needed was a tooth to kill the diary.
Speaker D:But now the basilisk has lost its life because it's been manipulated by Tom Riddle not once, but twice.
Speaker D:And who put it down there to begin with?
Speaker D:So I would say the only being here that had no choice, that was forced to hunt in the only ground it was given.
Speaker D:Right.
Speaker D:Because if it was outside, it would have went for the spiders, because it likes spiders.
Speaker A:The spiders run away from it because.
Speaker D:It runs away from it because it says they're their mortal enemy.
Speaker D:So it would have been chasing spiders, trying to kill Aragon.
Speaker D:But no, it's left with only one hunting ground because the animals have to hunt.
Speaker D:They have to eat.
Speaker A:Eat.
Speaker D:And so I would say that the item, the person, the being here that needs justice is the basilisk.
Speaker A:Natasha.
Speaker C:Appreciate you.
Speaker A:May I go first, Natasha?
Speaker A:If you in your home found a scorpion, would you put it outside?
Speaker A:You would put it outside.
Speaker A:You would not kill this poisonous.
Speaker C:Putting it outside actually does kill it.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker A:Does it?
Speaker C:Scorpions are in your.
Speaker A:They can't survive.
Speaker C:They like to be in dark areas.
Speaker C:You put it out there to fend for itself.
Speaker C:You just killed it.
Speaker C:You've killed it.
Speaker C:So you killed it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So fun fact in Las Vegas, scorpions are not native to the desert here.
Speaker B:They came with the palm trees that they imported.
Speaker D:Exactly.
Speaker D:Somebody brought them somewhere they weren't supposed to be, and then we're killing them by the droves because we're like, not in my house.
Speaker D:They shouldn't even be here.
Speaker D:Maybe we should stop and importing palm trees to the desert.
Speaker D:Like, why are palm trees.
Speaker A:That's not the question.
Speaker A:Let's get back the scorpion.
Speaker A:Are you going to let the scorpion continue to live in your home?
Speaker A:Is my question.
Speaker A:And like, so you'll kill it?
Speaker C:What?
Speaker C:You said it's a.
Speaker C:It's been a.
Speaker C:But it's somewhere it's not supposed to be.
Speaker C:It is not.
Speaker C:It's not a prey animal.
Speaker C:It's a apex predator.
Speaker C:So no matter where that basilisk is.
Speaker D:Absolutely.
Speaker C:It would be killing things.
Speaker C:And yeah, maybe Aragog, it might go after a unicorn.
Speaker C:It might go after a person walking down the street.
Speaker A:So what about a centaur?
Speaker C:It might go after a centaur.
Speaker C:So a great white shark, right.
Speaker D:Is an apex predator.
Speaker D:So we should just kill all the great whites because they're apex predators?
Speaker D:Or should we not be in their faith?
Speaker A:Or.
Speaker D:Wait, hold on, wait, hold on, hold on.
Speaker C:I'm saying that its nature is to kill.
Speaker C:So you can't call it innocent.
Speaker C:That's what it's going to do.
Speaker C:Whether it's in that you absolutely can call it innocent or somewhere else it's going to kill something.
Speaker D:There's, there's no moral ground here.
Speaker D:There's no innocent or guilty.
Speaker D:So you take the great white, right.
Speaker C:If you get.
Speaker C:Which is It.
Speaker A:It deserves justice.
Speaker D:I'm saying.
Speaker D:I'm saying that there's no ground either way and didn't deserve to die.
Speaker D:Just like a great white, right?
Speaker D:They swim.
Speaker D:Wait, let me finish.
Speaker D:They swim around and they are opportunists if you're in their spot.
Speaker D:They are an apex fucking predator.
Speaker D:So if I get my human ass in the ocean and I attract it by whatever means, whether he's just hungry, he's like, she looks tasty or whatever, is it my fault for being where I'm not supposed to be, or is it his fault for living his best shark life?
Speaker D:I'm gonna say it's my fault they're at a school.
Speaker D:I'm gonna say that's my fault to.
Speaker C:Be so of the two of them.
Speaker D:And the bas is not supposed to be there.
Speaker C:Kills and eats children.
Speaker C:So that is a problem that needs to be dealt with.
Speaker C:And just like you remove a scorpion from the house, thus killing it.
Speaker C:Either way, in order to get rid of that basilisk, it needs to die in order to save the lives of the children that are there now.
Speaker C:And that will come later.
Speaker C:And that's.
Speaker C:You can take that with Salazar Slytherin.
Speaker C:Give him a call, see how he feels about it.
Speaker A:But this is a Salazar Slytherin problem, is it?
Speaker D:Because I kind of think of it as like the orcas who used to, like, kill the trainers at SeaWorld, why we got them in there, that's not where they're supposed to be.
Speaker D:Just saying.
Speaker A:But the trainers that lose their lives, they didn't put them there either.
Speaker A:Neither did these children.
Speaker C:So it attacked other people.
Speaker C:So it's not like this basilisk is fighting to get out of some sort of captivity.
Speaker C:It's just killing children.
Speaker A:It's there to be a murderous kill machine.
Speaker A:That's literally it.
Speaker D:So, I don't know, bred to do.
Speaker A:Yes, well, that's what it's born to do.
Speaker A:Which is why in order to save the children, we have to kill the basilisk.
Speaker A:That seems easy enough.
Speaker C:And going.
Speaker C:Going back to the whole nature, like the fact that it's a chicken egg hatched from a frog, that's not natural.
Speaker C:So this isn't a natural thing?
Speaker A:No, it's not.
Speaker C:This is.
Speaker D:We're talking about a world with wizards and mandrakes.
Speaker A:But, like.
Speaker A:But like, to Shantay's point, a mandrake is a natural thing in this world.
Speaker A:World.
Speaker A:It matures and then it is used in potions.
Speaker A:This is a chicken egg that has been.
Speaker A:No, it's a chicken egg that has been placed.
Speaker D:It is a natural thing.
Speaker D:No, it's not altered.
Speaker D:It's natural in that world.
Speaker C:It is not natural.
Speaker C:It is definitely altered.
Speaker C:Chicken eggs birth chickens.
Speaker B:Wait, Natasha, I have a question for you.
Speaker B:Why would a chicken egg.
Speaker B:Why would a chicken egg ever be under a toad?
Speaker D:I don't fucking know.
Speaker C:Because it's not natural.
Speaker B:Because it's not natural.
Speaker C:Wait a minute.
Speaker D:Wait, wait a minute.
Speaker D:Why would a sorting hat sing a song like the is not natural either?
Speaker B:Because the Sorting Hat is magic.
Speaker C:Nothing in this world is natural.
Speaker A:Yes, there is.
Speaker A:The Phoenix is natural.
Speaker C:The Basket List is not natural.
Speaker D:Wait.
Speaker C:Arthur Weasley Naturally in nature.
Speaker D:Arthur Weasley enchanted a car and made it sentient.
Speaker D:It's natural.
Speaker A:No, no it's not.
Speaker A:It is against the rules.
Speaker A:It's against the rules.
Speaker D:But it's possible to kill and hurt people like exists.
Speaker C:And that's why it doesn't need justice because it's only it needs to be.
Speaker D:That's like saying because a bear is hungry, it's just wrong because it eats people.
Speaker D:Maybe you should put your ass to Yellowstone and stood by the bears thing.
Speaker C:Like maybe we should stop doing like that.
Speaker C:I'm just saying a bear is natural.
Speaker C:A bear is natural.
Speaker C:But a basilisk is not.
Speaker C:A bear is natural.
Speaker C:A basilisk is not.
Speaker D:Just because you talk louder doesn't make it right.
Speaker D:It's unnatural.
Speaker D:All of that shit is unnatural.
Speaker D:So no.
Speaker C:Is what makes it right.
Speaker C:The fact that it's right is what makes it I.
Speaker A:Listen, listen.
Speaker A:The basilisk is not a natural thing.
Speaker A:It says that it's a chicken egg placed under a toad.
Speaker A:I mean that they had to be born to do this.
Speaker A:It was created.
Speaker D:Who took it to Hogwarts?
Speaker D:Who took it?
Speaker D:All right, well, even though he did it.
Speaker D:Even though he did it, yeah.
Speaker D:God damn it.
Speaker D:Well, no, well, it's not the only one in history because if it was, it wouldn't be written about in the books that Hermione had.
Speaker D:So it wasn't.
Speaker D:It wasn't like he created it just to do that so specifically.
Speaker D:Oh, he did all that to say to.
Speaker A:To pay them.
Speaker D:He didn't create all of them.
Speaker A:No, no, no, no, no.
Speaker D:This one, he doesn't say that.
Speaker A:This one?
Speaker A:How about this one?
Speaker D:This is the one it was placed there.
Speaker D:Shouldn't have been.
Speaker A:But you're not searching for justice for all Basilis.
Speaker A:You're searching for justice for this one.
Speaker D:This one, yeah.
Speaker A:And this is the one he created.
Speaker D:There kill children, wasn't it?
Speaker C:He couldn't have Been a sheep kill maga born.
Speaker D:If you say unnaturally one more time.
Speaker C:That's how they're created.
Speaker D:That's how they're all created.
Speaker D:You've got to let it go.
Speaker D:They're all unnatural.
Speaker D:There's a wizarding world where they play a game on brood sticks for quaffles.
Speaker D:Like it's unnatural.
Speaker A:It's unnatural for their world.
Speaker A:It's unnatural in their world.
Speaker D:Mary and Joseph happening.
Speaker C:But no, it had to be purposefully created for the, the point of killing people.
Speaker C:It's not, it's not going to just be chilling somewhere.
Speaker D:It was not spaced there for the point of killing people.
Speaker D:It was not created for the point of killing people.
Speaker D:They killed other things as well.
Speaker D:When it's not at Hogwarts, it kills other things.
Speaker A:Okay, well that's.
Speaker A:Hold on, hold on because you're correct, Natasha.
Speaker A:If it was out in the world, this one was created and placed in Hogwarts to kill people by needs justice.
Speaker D:Because if he just left it the alone where it was, he would have never there killing the spiders.
Speaker A:He would have never created it.
Speaker C:Created it.
Speaker A:He.
Speaker A:He created.
Speaker A:He didn't.
Speaker D:There are other ones that naturally.
Speaker D:No, there are other ones.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:And if you look, if you look argue about them.
Speaker D:Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Speaker C:If you look at the little splurge.
Speaker D:That Hermione pulls out of the book, right?
Speaker D:It does not say that the Basilisk was a thing created by Salazar.
Speaker D:So that it says that they.
Speaker D:It tells you how they are born but it does not say that it's only.
Speaker A:Okay, you're correct.
Speaker A:You're correct.
Speaker A:Hold on.
Speaker A:Yeah, we're talking about this one and, and the Chamber of Secret and we don't know.
Speaker A:Yes we do.
Speaker A:Because the Chamber of Secrets was created by Sells our Slytherin.
Speaker A:And only his heir would be able to get in there and, and control his monster that he placed in his Chamber of Secrets to make them be punished.
Speaker A:Because they wanted non pure blood people there and he was casted out by the other.
Speaker D:And that's what I'm saying.
Speaker D:They trained the thing to do things that were not necessary to their nature.
Speaker D:They are killing thing.
Speaker D:They are a killing thing.
Speaker D:They are an apex predator as we said they were put there.
Speaker D:And like I said the same thing.
Speaker D:If you put a great white shark, which is another apex predator in a bad position where there's humans you can kill, he's not going to differentiate.
Speaker D:He's just going to kill whatever available because they are opportunistic.
Speaker C:And with that.
Speaker D:God damn it.
Speaker A:Well listen, now, sorry, this is ridiculous.
Speaker D:But.
Speaker C:This Basilisk doesn't need justice because it's doing what it was meant to do, which is kill Muggle Borns.
Speaker C:That is what it was made to do.
Speaker A:That is why Salazar Slytherin set it up to do.
Speaker C:Put it there.
Speaker D:Do you believe it was its choice to do it?
Speaker D:No, it's about.
Speaker A:No, no, no, you're right, you're correct.
Speaker A:It is natural for this to do.
Speaker C:This was trained.
Speaker C:It's not trained.
Speaker D:All right, then that's it.
Speaker C:That's it.
Speaker D:Was it a choice or was not a trained?
Speaker C:He is controlled by someone who can speak in.
Speaker C:Just like when Harry told the snake to stop and it immediately listened because he could speak this language.
Speaker C:So it's not like Salazar Sl was like, oh, I'mma train you and make you this way.
Speaker C:It was already this way.
Speaker C:And someone who has this ability can make it can direct who it kills as opposed to it just killing indiscriminately.
Speaker D:Was it a choice?
Speaker D:Was it a choice?
Speaker A:That's why it deserves justice.
Speaker A:Because it's a snake that kills.
Speaker D:Did he choose to be at Hogwarts and only go after the little mogul boring children.
Speaker D:Did he choose to be there?
Speaker D:Listen now, yes or no?
Speaker D:It wasn't a choice.
Speaker A:Okay, okay, listen.
Speaker D:The answer, no question.
Speaker A:Now it's up to you guys, whoever, who deserves more justice.
Speaker A:Is it?
Speaker A:Is it Fox the Phoenix?
Speaker A:Is it Ginny Weasley?
Speaker A:Or is it the Basilisk?
Speaker A:Basilisk.
Speaker A:It's up to you guys.
Speaker A:Let us know in the poll online.
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Speaker A:If you have more takes about this basilist, you can find Shantae at the Villa Shante on Instagram.
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Speaker A:If you are wondering why CJ was just laughing in the background, you can find him at keyboard sarcasm.
Speaker A:And if you are also wondering how did I get just lose track of what happened here with this apex predator?
Speaker A:Ask me at KG Fury.
Speaker A:I met all these places online.
Speaker A:This is insane.
Speaker A:Please vote for Fox or Jimmy or I guess the Basilisk.
Speaker A:That's an interesting thing.
Speaker A:Thank you for joining us.
Speaker A:This has been our contributions for this book.
Speaker A:Please join us for the next episode.
Speaker A:We'll be wrapping up.
Speaker A:We'll be watching the movie and we'll be wrapping up what happens in the movie.
Speaker A:We'll be comparing the movie to the books.
Speaker A:I'm sure that the basilisk is going to get a good edit.
Speaker A:I'm sure.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:We'll see how that goes.
Speaker A:Thank you for joining us.
Speaker A:Y'all porters adjourned.
Speaker A:Good night.
