Episode 17
Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban Chapters 1-4: Fiscal Responsibility Harry v. Weasleys
Join Kevin, Chantae, Natasha and CJ as they discuss the first 4 chapters of the Prisoner of Azkaban. They talk about Harry blowing up Large Marge, the Knight Bus and Harry's first encounter with the Minister of Magic.
In addition, the crew talk about the differences in the use of their finances of those that have it and those that don't in the Harry Potter world.
Transcript
Welcome to justice for Dean Thomas, a podcast of finding justice for the characters and things found in the wizarding world.
Speaker A:But from our perspective.
Speaker A:I'm your host, Kevin G.
Speaker A:And I'm here with cj, Shantae and Natasha.
Speaker A:What is going on, guys?
Speaker A:Good to see y'all again.
Speaker B:What up, Kev?
Speaker A:What's going on, guys?
Speaker A:What's going on?
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Speaker A:Guys, we've had a little bit of a break, but we are now back to get into book three.
Speaker B:Yay.
Speaker A:Exactly.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Lion, I was thinking about the movie already.
Speaker D:Oh my God.
Speaker B:Ouch.
Speaker B:Shots fired.
Speaker C:Actually, I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker C:I was looking at the movie on Wikipedia too.
Speaker C:So we're way ahead of ourselves.
Speaker C:But I just want this out there in the world.
Speaker C:So this is the third paragraph from the Wikipedia page for Prisoner of Azkaban film.
Speaker C: ,: Speaker C:It's the first Harry Potter film to use IMAX technology.
Speaker C:Released in the IMAX theaters.
Speaker C: cond highest grossing film of: Speaker C: the highest grossing film of: Speaker B:What was going on?
Speaker B:2004.
Speaker B:Mission Impossible.
Speaker A:Iron Man.
Speaker A:No, no, Iron man was not yet.
Speaker C:It was not Mission Impossible for.
Speaker B: Okay, what was: Speaker B:Damn, that was so long ago.
Speaker B:It was 20 years ago, CJ.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker C:I'm gonna tell you.
Speaker C:It was Shrek 2.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:I never would have said that.
Speaker B:Shrek 2.
Speaker C:Shrek 2.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Way to feel old now.
Speaker C:Anyway, critics, Prius, Alfonso Cuaron's direction, the lead actors performances is credited for marking a notable shift in the franchise's tone and directing style.
Speaker C:And this is what I wanted to say because I Was Laughing is often regarded by critics and fans alike as the best Harry Potter film.
Speaker A:Yeah, I mean people love it.
Speaker A:Some people love five too.
Speaker A:Like a lot of people love like order a lot.
Speaker A:Because it's like the tonal shift is what they like because it was different and I, you know, we about to.
Speaker A:We about to see.
Speaker A:Not today.
Speaker D:I really feel like book three is a fuck around and find out book.
Speaker D:I think that's like the overarching theme.
Speaker A:Hey, what do you mean what I mean by that?
Speaker A:Who fucks around and who finds out?
Speaker B:Yeah, who fucks around?
Speaker D:I feel like everybody does.
Speaker D:I feel.
Speaker D:Okay, we'll do some basic ones.
Speaker D:Snape.
Speaker D:Snape comes in there and he's all, you know, I've caught you.
Speaker D:And then, you know, then it's serious.
Speaker D:Then he finds out, you know, again around find out.
Speaker D:Peter Pettigrew.
Speaker C:How did you not say Pettigrew?
Speaker C:First he around for 12 years, and this year he finds out and got.
Speaker D:Found out by a damn map.
Speaker B:By.
Speaker D:By his own map.
Speaker D:Ain't that a motherf.
Speaker C:We're gonna talk about it.
Speaker C:He got found out by the Daily Prophet.
Speaker B:Nah, Sirius Black found him out ahead of time.
Speaker B:That's how this whole thing started.
Speaker B:This.
Speaker B:He was like, Peter Pettic grew and he escaped from master.
Speaker A:There's a few things even in this chapter we gonna talk about it.
Speaker A:Like when they're like a rat lasts about three years.
Speaker B:Three years right now.
Speaker B:Hanging around for like 12.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:No family for a minute.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Why did that not raise any alarm bells?
Speaker B:Well, I want to talk about that.
Speaker B:But they do talk about, oh, what are the magical powers?
Speaker B:So, like, this is the first time we hear that the pets that they can bring, an owl, a frog or a rat are supposedly have magical powers.
Speaker B:Because before this, you know, Hedwig delivered devil's toad, ran off, scabbers just hung out.
Speaker B:So, like, now we know they're supposed to actually do something.
Speaker B:And so maybe they just attributed that to his magical powers.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker A:HE LAUGH Lives four times as long.
Speaker B:Four times as long.
Speaker B:That's a magical power in itself.
Speaker C:I learned so much about how long owls live just because of this.
Speaker C:Like, I was like, how long do owls live?
Speaker C:Because we all know Erol is old.
Speaker C:So, like, realistically, how long.
Speaker C:What is Errol's lifespan?
Speaker C:Gray owls live up to about 13 years in the wild and about 27 years in captivity.
Speaker C:I'm like, so that's why he's tired.
Speaker C:Yeah, that's why he's tired.
Speaker C:So then I went to his wiki page.
Speaker C: Apparently he was born in: Speaker A:He shouldn't even be that old in time.
Speaker D:I cannot with the first date of Errol the owl.
Speaker D:Oh, oh, my other big one, Aunt.
Speaker A:Marge, she did around.
Speaker B:She did around.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:I think that's the only example you've given that I agree with.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:The rest of them did not around and find out.
Speaker A:She did around and she does find out.
Speaker B:Found out quickly.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:I mean, she's, she's Pretty trash like.
Speaker B:She deserves everything she got and more.
Speaker A:I want to revisit the justice for Vernon because the women in his life are rough.
Speaker B:He loves his sister.
Speaker B:He loves his sister and she loves him.
Speaker B:And I don't think Vernon deserves any justice for his sister because she does not treat him the way she treats Harry Potter.
Speaker B:True.
Speaker A:No, I'm not saying that.
Speaker A:I'm saying that he just had bad examples all his life.
Speaker A:Vernon, I want to do.
Speaker A:I want to do like a.
Speaker A:Just a deep dive on Vernon Dursley because I feel like there's a story.
Speaker B:As his sister said, if the is bad, so goes the pup.
Speaker B:So apparently his mama ain't that great.
Speaker B:I mean that's a quote, sir.
Speaker A:I want to sit down and just like have a deep dive into Vernon Dursley and how he became the man he is today.
Speaker A:It's not all his fault is what I'm feeling based on what we're not.
Speaker C:Because he enjoys torturing that boy for Petunia's kids pleasures.
Speaker B:He didn't like slip and stumble into Petunia he saw like the.
Speaker B:He attracted that energy to him like she found.
Speaker B:They found each other because they are the same type of horrible love in a hopeless place.
Speaker B:They are the hopeless place.
Speaker A:They are the hopeless place.
Speaker B:All I'm saying is like he got the wife that suited him best and that is not anything other than like find and like.
Speaker A:Okay, okay, let's get into it.
Speaker A:Let's talk about this chapter.
Speaker B:All right, here we are guys.
Speaker B:Chapter one.
Speaker B:So like, like the Chamber of Secrets taught us the first chapter is usually a recap of what happened.
Speaker B:And this is the same here.
Speaker B:So let's go through the highlights of chapter one.
Speaker B:Owl Post is the title.
Speaker B:So we, we check in on Harry and as has been kind of the theme the last few books it's.
Speaker B:It's his birthday, he's with the Dursleys and they're pretty much ignoring him.
Speaker B:So last chapter they were, they were being assholes him and he was trying to like trick them into magic.
Speaker B:Now they just pretend he doesn't exist.
Speaker B:But they did lock up all his magic stuff.
Speaker B:And we learn that Hogwarts gives homework over the summer.
Speaker B:What the.
Speaker D:Because they are a fine institution of learning.
Speaker B:Huh?
Speaker B:Sure they are.
Speaker C:And there's no safer place that comes later.
Speaker B:Yeah, we'll talk about the safety in a little bit.
Speaker B:But so Harry, who is thirsty for any connection to the magical world is trying to sneak to do his homework at night so that the Dursleys don't catch him.
Speaker B:So this is where we come onto Harry and right now he hasn't heard anything from his friends because we know at the end of book two he gave his phone number to his friends so they could call him.
Speaker B:Ron calls and again, he's a wizard, he doesn't know how to phone work.
Speaker B:So when he called he yells into the phone in Dursley's ear and it just went all downhill from there.
Speaker B:So Hermione obviously should have been the first person to call.
Speaker B:I don't know why they didn't think of this before but from point on Harry can't get any phone calls so that kind of goes out the window.
Speaker B:So he's been all summer without any news of what's going on and he is trying to get his homework done and he gets a letter finally from oh, this time there's less animal cruelty.
Speaker B:I know this will make Natasha happy because the Dursleys allow Hedrick to go flying out at night only so that she's not cooped up in her cage.
Speaker B:And she comes back one day.
Speaker B:Sometimes she goes for days at a.
Speaker B:She comes back one day, she's with another owl and Erol, the Weasley's owl.
Speaker B:And they're basically having to lift him along because he's old and tired, as we've already talked about.
Speaker A:I thought, interesting that he's nine at this point.
Speaker C: He was born in: Speaker C:He can live up to 27 years in captivity.
Speaker C:What is this bird doing?
Speaker C:Get this bird some cardio.
Speaker B:He's not old, out of shape to, to the point though, it's.
Speaker B:Even in the first book when he was like, what, seven or six, he was already tired and, and kind of grody.
Speaker B:So I think Erol has some sort of condition.
Speaker D:I don't know.
Speaker A:He's a hand me down owl.
Speaker A:He.
Speaker A:He's a cheap owl.
Speaker A:He was already like.
Speaker A:He was already a hand me down.
Speaker A:We already know that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:I just love the fact that like, Hedwig comes in with this owl.
Speaker A:Hedwig and the, the Hogwarts owl come in with this owl draped between them and they like to help him fly the last.
Speaker A:Who knows how many legs.
Speaker B:Well, we learned that the reason Errol is particularly tired this time is because he came from Egypt because the Weasleys won some sort of sweepstakes and they end up with 700 galleons and they used the money, almost all of that money.
Speaker B:And I know, Natasha, we're going to hear from you in a little bit.
Speaker B:But they use almost all of that money to go on a trip to Egypt to visit Bill.
Speaker B:So see Bill time.
Speaker A:I want.
Speaker A:Listen, I want us to.
Speaker D:Didn't they see Bill six months ago?
Speaker B:Six months is a long time to go without seeing your child.
Speaker B:Natasha.
Speaker A:I feel like this is a.
Speaker A:This is a part for the big picture at the end.
Speaker A:When we get.
Speaker A:When we go deep.
Speaker A:Let's go deep on fin.
Speaker A:Fiscal responsibility.
Speaker A:We'll don't talk about that towards the.
Speaker D:End because sick of the goddamn Weasleys is what we are.
Speaker A:I think this is.
Speaker A:We need to dig deep on fiscal responsibility a little bit later.
Speaker B:So 700 Galleons, we learn they're on this trip.
Speaker B:They spent most of their money on the trip.
Speaker B:However they did let Ron know that they would buy him a new wand because we know he destroyed the last one during all the shenanigans with the flying car.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:So Arrow comes bringing a gift.
Speaker B:It's from Ron and it is a sneakoscope which we know it's going to come into play later.
Speaker B:And we know it's verified that it works because it worked when the twins were trying to sneak beetles into Percy's soup.
Speaker B:So we know it works.
Speaker B:He has it.
Speaker B:It's going to come into play.
Speaker B:We also see a package from Hermione.
Speaker B:This is the one that Hedwig brings.
Speaker B:We learned that Hermione is in France for the summer with her family because they're middle class and so they.
Speaker B:They can go to France.
Speaker B:And so she is learning all those French things.
Speaker B:And she sends him a package of a broom care kit because he loves Quidditch so much and he's so sad about.
Speaker B:Oh, one thing I forgot to say.
Speaker B:Harry was able to pick the lock to get his supplies out to do his homework.
Speaker B:I'm thinking the twins taught him.
Speaker B:But we need to keep in mind that Harry knows how to pick locks.
Speaker B:Now.
Speaker A:I thought it was interesting that Vernon.
Speaker A:And then he comes back.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:So remember.
Speaker A:Remember how we leave him.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:He is.
Speaker A:Those bars on the window.
Speaker A:Bars get ripped off and they get him out the window.
Speaker A:That's the last time we see him.
Speaker A:We are now back at Pivot Drive.
Speaker A:Privet Drive it is.
Speaker A:It's been interesting that we keep just catching up with Harry towards the end of his journeys here.
Speaker A:Nowadays he's not.
Speaker A:You know.
Speaker A:We don't know his early parts of being at home.
Speaker A:Those first like two months, month and a half we just get in the end.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:He's Ignored and sneaking to do his homework at midnight so he doesn't really sleep very much.
Speaker B:But I don't know why they locked up his stuff.
Speaker B:Because last time the twins were the ones who picked the lock to grab his stuff.
Speaker B:So somehow they thought it would work again.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker A:And that's the thing that's interesting, right, is that, like, the Dursleys don't want him doing wizard stuff.
Speaker A:They also don't want to be occupied with him.
Speaker A:Well, what do y'all want him to do?
Speaker D:What he did before.
Speaker D:Just sit?
Speaker C:Yeah, Just want him to sit and be quiet.
Speaker D:Just sit down.
Speaker B:I don't know why they still think that locking him up or preventing him from touching magical objects will prevent him from doing magic when he spends a majority of the year at a school doing magic.
Speaker B:At this point, just buy the.
Speaker B:The boy, like, his own apartment.
Speaker B:Just say, don't.
Speaker B:I don't want to see you.
Speaker B:Just let him.
Speaker D:I just do him dedicated.
Speaker D:You know, they have picked a role, they have picked an attitude.
Speaker D:Because at this point, it's like, you've already.
Speaker D:You've sent him off.
Speaker D:You know, he does magic.
Speaker D:You know, he's magical.
Speaker D:And then he comes back, right?
Speaker D:So it's like, why every year are you angry again every summer?
Speaker D:Like, what?
Speaker D:That's dedication to be an asshole every year for like, 90 days.
Speaker D:Like, for why?
Speaker D:For why?
Speaker A:Well, especially because, you know, it's happening every year.
Speaker A:Like, this is.
Speaker A:He's in the cycle now, right?
Speaker A:Y'all did a good job of suppressing this shit for a long time.
Speaker A:Then this giant ass ogre showed up and said, it's happening.
Speaker B:And so now he's not an ogre, he's a giant.
Speaker A:This half giant shows up and says, it's happening.
Speaker A:And so it happened.
Speaker A:Now here we are, we're in it.
Speaker A:So, like, sure, I don't like your shit that you're doing, but you're doing it, so it is what it is.
Speaker A:You already tried to avoid it.
Speaker A:We didn't.
Speaker A:Went to the middle of a lake to try to avoid this shit, and it didn't work.
Speaker A:So we're in it now.
Speaker A:So let's just get through these two months and then send your ass on your way.
Speaker A:Well, you said you got to do, like, some homework.
Speaker A:Go do this homework in your room.
Speaker B:In your room.
Speaker B:I don't want to see it.
Speaker B:I want to smell it.
Speaker B:I don't want to taste it.
Speaker B:Just take care of it.
Speaker A:Do what you got to do.
Speaker A:You have to be here for a Couple months, get it over with.
Speaker A:I don't know why this is when he gets back.
Speaker A:Every time Vernon got, like, new shit to, like, stop him.
Speaker A:It, I think, goes back to what we talked about before.
Speaker A:Petunia just likes tormenting this kid.
Speaker A:So she's like, vernon, get in there and do this.
Speaker A:And he's like, yeah, baby.
Speaker A:Yeah, baby.
Speaker D:Something else that kind of like, I don't know, struck me as weird.
Speaker D:The quill in the ink pot.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Oh, my God.
Speaker D:Magical.
Speaker D:And we could do all this stuff, you know, we can.
Speaker D:We can teleport, we can operate, we can, you know, create nothing from nothing or things from nothing.
Speaker D:And we got quills and ink.
Speaker A:Forget that part.
Speaker A:While we're here at home, I'm g.
Speaker A:Just use a pen.
Speaker A:There's a down.
Speaker B:That's what I stick in, like, okay, I get it, I get it.
Speaker B:At Hogwarts, you need to use the.
Speaker B:The quill in the ink pot, fine.
Speaker B:But when you're at home, go get a pen, go to a store, get you a pen, and you don't have to worry about getting stains on your sheets.
Speaker B:But I feel like Kevin and I have argued this before about, like, why do they do things so a fashion.
Speaker B:Like, when we have technology as Muggles, we do it to make things easier.
Speaker B:When you have magic as a wizard, like, again, you do.
Speaker B:You use magic to make things easier.
Speaker B:So, like, dipping a quill in ink is not.
Speaker B:I don't think it's.
Speaker B:It's a thing that they consider like, oh, this is.
Speaker B:Oh, my God, we have to do something bad.
Speaker B:They're just like, where the fuck.
Speaker B:I got some quill, I got some ink.
Speaker B:Now I'm going to Apparate somewhere.
Speaker B:So I feel like our idea of what needs to be improved and theirs is very much skewed by the fact that they can do so many things easily.
Speaker B:And I also feel like magic itself is a natural property, and the more you stay connected to the natural, the better you are able to conduct it.
Speaker B:So, like, if there is a way to do things and they don't have to use all the other technology, they don't.
Speaker B:Just to facilitate the use of magic.
Speaker C:But what about just making their life easier?
Speaker B:They have a lot of things that are a lot easier for them than they are for non magical people.
Speaker B:So, like, I don't.
Speaker B:I don't know if for them, equivalent ink is easy or it's something that is enough of annoyance for them to.
Speaker A:Do something about it, but there's a ballpoint pen.
Speaker D:I'm gonna Say it's dual.
Speaker D:Because it's not like they have the kids like out there getting like, you know, handwritten books, right?
Speaker D:They're getting printer pressed books at a bookstore.
Speaker D:You know, they have this whole, you know what's.
Speaker D:What I want to use retail section right on Diagon Alley.
Speaker D:So it's like, it's, it's willfully obnoxious to be like, hey, you need quill in ink.
Speaker D:And this goes back to what we.
Speaker C:Were talking about with Lockhart's books last time is because with Lockhart's books, why couldn't they just copy them?
Speaker C:Like do some kind of magic spell?
Speaker C:Which then begs the question, with all the books in the store now, do they have printing presses or do they have.
Speaker B:They have some sort of copyright spell that prevents you from doing it.
Speaker B:That's the only thing that makes sense.
Speaker C:But then how do they mass produce?
Speaker B:Only thing that makes sense.
Speaker D:Get your own magical ISBN.
Speaker C:Yeah, like our printers.
Speaker C:As common as at, like the printer in your house right now.
Speaker B:They use pneumatic tubes to get materials in and up and around the Ministry of Magic.
Speaker B:Like they clearly are not using computers and printers, but they used to use, even the printing press they use.
Speaker B:They're, they're probably still doing it the old fashioned way because for them, what does it matter?
Speaker B:I can, I can like, what is it?
Speaker B:Switch and some shit over.
Speaker B:And it's not any harder for me than to go to a computer and type.
Speaker D: To be fair, in: Speaker D:Maybe not even.
Speaker D:Especially the fucking Weasleys wouldn't have had an at home computer.
Speaker D:So, you know, the Dursleys might have.
Speaker D:But you know, in 93, I'm trying to think, did y'all have computers at home?
Speaker C:We did and we had one printer.
Speaker B:I know I had a computer at home until I was a teenager.
Speaker B:Oh.
Speaker A:What's crazy is that I definitely had a big pin at the house.
Speaker A:You did have several pins at the house.
Speaker A:Okay, so like maybe not a printer, you know, maybe not a printer, but a pin.
Speaker A:Come on.
Speaker B:I do feel like Harry could have got himself a pin.
Speaker B:At least at home with the Dursleys.
Speaker A:Even Vernon, not gonna be mad about him grabbing a pen.
Speaker A:Nothing like Mike snitch on him, but he could hide a pin in the room.
Speaker A:They would never see that the pin was missing.
Speaker A:Because you don't want to get like a special pin.
Speaker A:You just go get one of the regular one.
Speaker A:True you just get a regular pin.
Speaker A:They won't even know that it's missing.
Speaker A:And you get one of those instead of having the quill and the ink.
Speaker A:I don't know if you knew what the pen, it has the ink thing in it which is the ink that you need for the quill which is the end of the ballpoint pen.
Speaker A:It's the same shit.
Speaker D:And they also the fuckery that Harry is going back to, they could have gave him a regular wide ruled notebook and a pen and said do your homework in this notebook over the summer.
Speaker A:Well I mean they don't use notebooks.
Speaker A:That's fine.
Speaker A:They just use that open parchment, whatever a pen writes.
Speaker B:I don't have a fountain pen.
Speaker B:It's not an ink.
Speaker B:It's not an ink.
Speaker B:But I still.
Speaker B:People still use these because they're all.
Speaker A:You know what that is?
Speaker A:It's still not ink.
Speaker B:It's not a quilt.
Speaker A:It isn't a quilt.
Speaker B:It isn't a quilt with the ink pot.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker A:Tj, did you just find a pin?
Speaker A:What was the trail?
Speaker D:We have dragons but no pins.
Speaker D:Go ahead.
Speaker B:Let's move on from the pin.
Speaker B:Obviously the wizards, some things they care about updating, some things they don't.
Speaker B:All right.
Speaker B:Anyways, so he also gets a gift from Hagrid and it is an alive book.
Speaker B:It's called the Monster Book of Monsters.
Speaker B:And Harry has no clue why he gets sent this book from Hagrid but he has to catch it and and tie it up because the book's wild and we learn later why.
Speaker B:Hint, hint, hint.
Speaker B:But Hagrid thinks that he'll find this useful for his second year Hogwarts.
Speaker B:This is the second time that someone's bought books for Harry, for school, for him when he doesn't need it.
Speaker B:See, this is how the rich stay rich.
Speaker B:That's all I'm gonna say.
Speaker B:Anyways, he also gets a letter from Hogwarts let him know that the books he's going to need for the new year and Harry, Hermione and Ron have set up.
Speaker B:Hey, we're going to be in Diagon Alley the last week before break is over.
Speaker B:You should come and meet us.
Speaker B:And he's like oh so excited.
Speaker B:Hopefully I can do it.
Speaker B:And he sees that he also gets a permission slip to go to Hogsmeade because third years are able to go to Hogsmeades on the weekends but it has to be signed by a guardian.
Speaker B:Harry is feeling very dubious about the fact he's going to get this signed but he really wants to be able to go to Hogsby and hang out with his friends.
Speaker B:And that's pretty much how the chapter ends and ends with him staring at his birthday cards because the book says it's the first time he's ever gotten birthday cards.
Speaker B:However, I feel like last year he got birthday cards, but Dobby stole them.
Speaker B:So he never actually got them.
Speaker B:But according to him in this book, this is his first year receiving them.
Speaker A:Because Dobby's trash.
Speaker A:And he stopped him from getting them.
Speaker B:It's trash after he got fat.
Speaker B:Now, he should have given Harry Potter his shit.
Speaker B:I'm just saying.
Speaker B:Yep, that's the end of chapter one.
Speaker A:So chapter one was mainly just about him getting his birthday gifts.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:Kind of let us know.
Speaker B:Like, we always seem to start on Harry's birthday, you know?
Speaker A:Yeah, we back.
Speaker A:It's Harry's birthday.
Speaker A:We back.
Speaker D:It's the important part of the year.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker B:Harry's birthday.
Speaker B:Here we are.
Speaker B:All right now.
Speaker A:So time for it to get popping.
Speaker A:Literally.
Speaker B:Now let's get popping with chapter two.
Speaker B:Aunt Marge's big mistake.
Speaker B:Now, this is a great example of around and finding out.
Speaker B:So let's get to it.
Speaker B:So it's the next morning, Harry goes downstairs.
Speaker B:The Dursleys don't even acknowledge the fact that it's his birthday.
Speaker B:And that's fine.
Speaker B:But we see on the news that some escaped convict is on the loose, and they only refer to him as black.
Speaker B:We know it's serious, but they do not say where he escaped from.
Speaker B:Which, this was great.
Speaker A:This was great.
Speaker A:Because they're like, okay, the.
Speaker A:The Muggle news says that there's a convict that escaped.
Speaker A:He's wild.
Speaker A:We're moving on to the next story.
Speaker A:And Vernon's like, they didn't even tell.
Speaker B:Us where he that made it tell us where he escaped from.
Speaker B:Which, of course, they can't say where he escaped from because they.
Speaker B:Then the mugs would be like, Azkaban.
Speaker B:What the is an Azkaban?
Speaker A:Where's that?
Speaker A:Prison?
Speaker B:But the fact that a wizard is being is alerted, like a wizard issue is being alerted to the Muggles.
Speaker B:We know.
Speaker B:This is serious business.
Speaker C:You know what's funny?
Speaker C:In America, that wouldn't even make the news business.
Speaker B:Get it?
Speaker A:Serious business.
Speaker D:Serious.
Speaker A:Serious business.
Speaker B:I think this whole time that we're in book three, we're going to have Kev act as silly because his favorite character is showing up.
Speaker B:This is true.
Speaker B:On book three, this is true.
Speaker C:Hard time being serious.
Speaker A:He's a seriously black character named Serious Black.
Speaker B:Seriously black character who Is not black.
Speaker A:I was heartbroken.
Speaker B:Anyways, as we are sitting there watching and Dursley's are fussing, we learned that Vernon's sister Marge will be coming to visit.
Speaker B:And Harry lets us know how terribly awful Marge is.
Speaker B:She is an awful, awful human being who hates Harry.
Speaker B:Mostly because the Dursleys have told her that she should hate Harry.
Speaker B:And so she does.
Speaker A:I love the fact that he's like she ain't even my aunt.
Speaker A:And I've been having to call her aunt Aunt Marge this whole time.
Speaker B:I even like that bitch.
Speaker B:And I got call her Aunt Marge.
Speaker A:And she ain't even my aunt.
Speaker A:She is Vernon's sister.
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker B:Like you were not even related by blood in any way.
Speaker B:You married my aunt and that's your sister.
Speaker B:I don't even know her.
Speaker B:I don't even like her like that.
Speaker A:Correct.
Speaker A:And she come in, she has a hard hate in me.
Speaker A:In for me for no reason other than that they said like they took me in.
Speaker A:So then I should be like sent away.
Speaker A:Is weird.
Speaker A:Large Marge.
Speaker C:It's funny because the Dursley seriously are just haters.
Speaker C:Like if you're not one of us, we hate you.
Speaker B:Pretty much.
Speaker B:Pretty much.
Speaker B:If you aren't.
Speaker B:If you aren't the shittiest person on the earth, we hate you.
Speaker B:That's pretty much.
Speaker C:I'm surprised we don't have some Lannister level incest going on with how much they hate everyone else.
Speaker B:You know this is a children's book so they probably won't say it but I'm pretty sure there are.
Speaker B:They might be from the Alabama of England.
Speaker D:Not the Lannister level.
Speaker A:I figured they would be allowed at the play a hinter ball for sure because.
Speaker A:And Vernon specifically.
Speaker A:It's what the Dursleys do though.
Speaker A:But like it's.
Speaker A:It's some wild.
Speaker A:But Large Marge is coming to town.
Speaker A:Aunt Marge.
Speaker B:Large Marge.
Speaker B:Damn.
Speaker A:She doesn't get.
Speaker A:I mean that's what she is right here.
Speaker B:They do describe her as very large.
Speaker B:Yes, I think I put large loud and hate Harry.
Speaker B:So Vernon is telling Harry, hey, you better be on your best behavior.
Speaker B:You better not do no funny business.
Speaker B:Oh, by the way, I told her that you went to some sporting school.
Speaker B:Juvie for boys.
Speaker B:And you better make sure that she believes it.
Speaker B:And so Harry spies an opportunity.
Speaker A:Finally Harry said, Listen man, I'm 13.
Speaker A:I'm all of 13.
Speaker B:I'm a man now.
Speaker A:I'mma use this thing I got called leverage.
Speaker A:Gonna try to use it to the best of my ability.
Speaker B:And he's like, you know, I might, you know, be forgetful of what's his.
Speaker B:What's his name?
Speaker B:What's the school you say I went to?
Speaker C:Secure center for Incurably Criminal Boys.
Speaker B:There you go.
Speaker A:Hold on.
Speaker A:No, I think both y'all need to.
Speaker A:To.
Speaker A:To slow it down, because this is such an important part right here.
Speaker A:Because he.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:He doesn't just.
Speaker A:He doesn't just say, I might forget.
Speaker A:He says, hey, Vernon, I'm trying to go to this, like, off campus thing.
Speaker A:And Vernon's like.
Speaker A:And so you need me to do a.
Speaker A:What was that?
Speaker B:I might forget of this.
Speaker A:Oh, you.
Speaker A:I know what you're doing right here.
Speaker A:That's why you told me about that off campus thing.
Speaker A:That's why you told me about the off campus thing.
Speaker B:He's like, well, you're asking me for a favor, Vernon.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:So it's only right that you do me one in return.
Speaker D:Yes.
Speaker B:Yeah, right.
Speaker A:We're doing.
Speaker A:We're doing each other favors.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Scratching each other's backs and all that.
Speaker D:Help you didn't.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:I went to that juvenile school.
Speaker A:I just need one little signature.
Speaker B:What's the name of the place again?
Speaker B:Oh, I might forget.
Speaker B:I might get amnesia.
Speaker A:Now here's the hard part.
Speaker D:You got a quill and ink, my guy?
Speaker D:Just sign the.
Speaker A:Keep it pushing.
Speaker B:I'm sure it's some magic on it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:As I said, I don't know if you could just forge a signature in this kind of situation because of this, the magical part of this thing.
Speaker A:But I.
Speaker A:This here's the hard part, because I'm like reading this, and I'm like, oh, finally Harry realizes how leverage works.
Speaker A:But then I said, the hard part about leverage is that there has to be a model of trust.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:When you're trying to get one of these negotiations, and there is no trust between Vernon and Harry.
Speaker A:And hell, I'm sitting here reading this, and I don't trust.
Speaker B:I'll push.
Speaker B:I don't trust Vernon either.
Speaker B:I will say, you know, Harry's like.
Speaker B:He's like, I'll watch you all week, and if you're good.
Speaker B:I like too many loopholes.
Speaker B:To Vernon.
Speaker A:Correct.
Speaker B:I feel like you were good enough, so I'm not gonna sign that.
Speaker B:Like, and he doesn't know I'll be good.
Speaker A:Vernon has proven to be a ball stopper for no reason, but to be a ball stopper.
Speaker A:He's not gonna let the thing happen just because he don't want Harry to have no fun.
Speaker A:Like, that's Literally, it.
Speaker A:So it's like, it's not even like a.
Speaker A:He doesn't even have like a good reason to stop.
Speaker B:He doesn't need it.
Speaker B:A reason.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:It doesn't.
Speaker A:He doesn't.
Speaker A:He's like, we ain't doing this because we ain't doing it because you're going to get enjoyment from it.
Speaker A:And I don't want you to have enjoyment for whatever.
Speaker A:Oh.
Speaker A:Because it gets between you hot and heavy when you are not enjoying something in your own life, Harry.
Speaker A:So I got to make sure.
Speaker A:I got to keep stuff.
Speaker B:Here's the thing.
Speaker B:I love that we need him to have a motivation so much that we've created one for him.
Speaker B:But I think.
Speaker B:But I have to say, I think he just is an awful human.
Speaker B:Human being and doesn't give a.
Speaker B:And just wants Harry to be miserable.
Speaker B:Like, but it's hard to believe he's.
Speaker C:That terrible of a person.
Speaker C:I get it.
Speaker B:We've created a reason for him.
Speaker B:Like, it's because Tunia gets him hot and heavy when he's being an.
Speaker B:That's why he's doing it.
Speaker B:But I'm gonna keep flying along with it.
Speaker B:But like, I think it's so sad that we ourselves could never imagine someone being this cruel and this for no reason that we had to give him a reason.
Speaker A:Well, because, look, okay, the real reason is because, like, he's not an asshole to his boss in the.
Speaker A:In the second book, right?
Speaker B:He's a sniveling weasel and he loves his son, but his boss has authority over him.
Speaker A:So it's like, it's wild that it's.
Speaker A:The only person you have this hating for is this 10 year old, 11 year old, 12 year old.
Speaker A:Same kid as he goes through the years, like there's.
Speaker B:He loves his son because his son is made in his own image.
Speaker B:He loves himself and he sees himself in his son because they think they're.
Speaker C:Better than all of their neighbors.
Speaker B:Yeah, true.
Speaker B:And they're probably the worst people on that street.
Speaker A:They're harder, worse on the block.
Speaker A:But that's why we had to come up with a reason.
Speaker A:But, like, I just don't.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker B:But that's why I think that I feel like that makes me feel better about us.
Speaker B:So we were like, we.
Speaker B:There has to be real.
Speaker B:You can't just be a hater.
Speaker B:This much of a hater for no reason.
Speaker B:So we had to give him one.
Speaker B:And that just makes me feel better about our souls.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:But going back to it, how do you do this negotiation?
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:Do you give him the paper and like you get him to sign it and then hold on to the paper.
Speaker A:Like how do you, like, do you get this paper signed?
Speaker A:Because there needs to be trust on both sides.
Speaker B:Here's what I would do as Harry Potter, as myself, I would make sure Vernon signed it and then I would let Vernon hold onto the paper because I know exactly where Vernon would put it.
Speaker B:And then when he's not looking, I would go and get the paper and I'd have the signed paper and sure, maybe, I mean I might be good that week.
Speaker B:Maybe just so you know, because I know next year I'm going to need him to sign it again.
Speaker B:But I would always have that paper in case he reneges.
Speaker B:I'd be like, oh, too bad honey, I already got it.
Speaker B:Fuck you.
Speaker C:But see, both you and Natasha are more Hermione level thinkers and Harry is a hairy level.
Speaker B:I was Harry, but I was myself.
Speaker B:That's how I would do it.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah, exactly, because you're more.
Speaker A:Because he finally gets the idea of leverage, which is great.
Speaker A:But like how do you, how do you.
Speaker A:There's no trust.
Speaker A:There's no trust that either one of them are going to come through.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Vernon doesn't trust that Harry's going to come through to the level that he wants.
Speaker A:Harry doesn't trust Harry.
Speaker A:Can't trust that Vernon gonna come through.
Speaker A:You just can't.
Speaker B:I, I want to push back because I feel like Vernon, Vernon does think Harry will pull through because he, because as much as he tries to paint Harry as this awful person, he knows he's not.
Speaker B:He just doesn't give a.
Speaker B:So he knows Harry will hold up his end of the bargain.
Speaker B:So I don't think Vernon, I don't think the trust issue is on Vernon's side.
Speaker B:I think Harry shouldn't trust Vernon, not that Vernon doesn't trust Harry.
Speaker C:Correct.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:How would you do it?
Speaker C:How would I do it?
Speaker C:13 year old me would have done the same thing as Harry because I was also innocent, naive and I had hope.
Speaker C:I don't have hope now.
Speaker C:I'm not cooperating until you sign this.
Speaker A:So you need to sign first.
Speaker A:But then how, how, how, how do you convince Vernon that you're going to come through on the promise that he's signing?
Speaker C:How do I know that he's not going to lie to me?
Speaker A:That's what I'm saying.
Speaker C:We have a stalemate and now you're late to pick up Marge because the whole time you're going to get Marge, you're worried about what I'm going to say, so you better comply.
Speaker C:Come on, let's do it right now.
Speaker A:Well Vernon, as I'm looking you up against the clock.
Speaker B:I don't.
Speaker A:You got a time limit, my guy.
Speaker A:So I need that, that signature on this paper so we can get this rolling.
Speaker A:I, I, It's a tough situation, man.
Speaker A:I think I like that Harry.
Speaker A:Finally you try to use some leverage.
Speaker A:But I don't know how to how you would do it to make sure.
Speaker B:I want to give Harry credit for even thinking of it because yes, yes, Harry on the last two books would not have thought of that at all.
Speaker B:No, no, that just shows you how mature he is.
Speaker B:He's like, wait a minute, you want something from me and I want something from you.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker B:So they make the deal.
Speaker B:They make the deal.
Speaker B:Harry has to be quote unquote, good for a week to Marge and then he'll sign the paper for Harry.
Speaker B:Now here's where Harry fucked up.
Speaker B:He really should have got that signature ahead of time.
Speaker B:Anyways, so Mars shows up.
Speaker B:She is terrible.
Speaker B:She is a horrible human being.
Speaker B:She's obsessed with dogs.
Speaker B:She brings a dog that has attacked Harry in the past with her even though it is elderly now.
Speaker B:She even kind of annoyed Petunia because she messed up her house because the dog slobbering all over the place.
Speaker B:And she goes, and of course she coddles what's his name, Dudley.
Speaker B:And loves on her brother loves a Petunia.
Speaker B:And then she turns on Harry and we know it's already going to be a difficult week.
Speaker B:Harry does his best.
Speaker B:Harry does phenomenally.
Speaker B:Harry does better than I would have done.
Speaker B:I know I would have already blown Marge up first day.
Speaker B:But Harry makes it to the last day when Marge sayings awful to him the whole time she said something about he needs to get beat more at his school.
Speaker B:And tells Petunia to write a letter to ask them to beat him harder than they have already.
Speaker B:And like, yes, granted, we know he's not getting beat, but she doesn't know that.
Speaker B:She thinks he's getting beat.
Speaker B:Doesn't like that.
Speaker B:Even though he's getting beat up, he still isn't cowed.
Speaker B:And so tells Petunia to write a letter so he'll get even more extreme abuse.
Speaker B:Like this lady is trash.
Speaker A:When, when she says that and he looks at, she says do you get the beating?
Speaker A:You get beatings at the school?
Speaker A:And he's like and looks at Vernon and Vernon like nods and say yeah.
Speaker A:He's like, yeah, they do he's like, oh, oh, like you, you okay about this?
Speaker A:That means they're not hard enough.
Speaker A:After that conversation is when I would have went to Vernon and said, I need that signature now.
Speaker A:This is going like, I've given you a couple days.
Speaker A:I need that signature now because this is the halfway.
Speaker B:It wasn't a couple days.
Speaker B:That was day one.
Speaker B:She just got there, right?
Speaker B:Just got there.
Speaker B:This is after she had to call her shit.
Speaker B:This is the up opening.
Speaker B:She had to haul her to her room for her and do all this stuff.
Speaker B:And the first thing she said to him was like, you need more beatings.
Speaker A:I would have looked at Vernon and said, I need that payment in advance.
Speaker B:Yeah, I'm gonna need you to sign this now.
Speaker B:This is why I don't give Vernon as much credit as you do, Kevin.
Speaker B:He knows like all throughout this chapter we see, he knows that the shit his sister saying is off, off kilter.
Speaker B:Like, he knows that she's going too far.
Speaker B:He knows that she is crazy and like going after Harry in some crazy way that nobody else would, would stand for.
Speaker B:He knows this and he still is requiring, you know, Harry to hold up his inner for of the bargain.
Speaker B:So like, and I suspect at the end of this, he probably wasn't going to sign that paper.
Speaker B:I do not trust Vernon Dursley.
Speaker B:I do not trust him.
Speaker B:I feel like he wasn't going to sign a paper.
Speaker B:But like, you can tell because he keeps looking at Harry when she says crazy stuff.
Speaker B:He's like, oh, keep it together.
Speaker B:He knows that she's saying some crazy shit.
Speaker B:Not once does he say anything back to her.
Speaker B:Not once does he try to like tell her, hey, calm your ass down, please.
Speaker B:Like, not once.
Speaker B:And that's why I don't give Vernon any sort of credit whatsoever.
Speaker A:Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker B:So speaking of not giving Vernon credit, somehow Harry makes it to the end of these seven days.
Speaker B:And they're after dinner, they're sitting around drinking.
Speaker B:Marge tries to pretend like she ain't gonna drink, but she really does.
Speaker B:And they sit down.
Speaker B:At this point, remember Harry had sent Hedwig off because he's trying to be as Muggle friendly as possible for Marge.
Speaker B:So he's, he's hidden his stuff.
Speaker B:He sent off Hedwig.
Speaker B:They're sitting down.
Speaker B:Marge starts in on Harry about his parents.
Speaker A:This is.
Speaker B:She's some like, eugenics junkie because she had said earlier in the year, oh, well, he comes from Batson stock.
Speaker B:You see it in dogs too.
Speaker B:I just told the, the dude who works for me Takes care of my dogs to drown one the other day.
Speaker B:Because I'm like, what the.
Speaker C:I know we talked about Vernon being a bad person, but, like, Marge is on several people's hate list, drowning dogs.
Speaker C:Like, it would be on site for her from a lot of people.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:Like, we already.
Speaker B:We've talked about Corella deville in the past.
Speaker B:She's on another level.
Speaker B:Like, Cruella deville looks nice compared to Marge.
Speaker A:I'm not a big animal fan personally, but even this is a little bit behind me.
Speaker A:I'm like, you had.
Speaker A:You just had it.
Speaker A:You said it was a bad, bad seed, if you will.
Speaker A:So you just drown the thing.
Speaker A:Oh, that's.
Speaker A:That's rough.
Speaker B:That's crazy.
Speaker B:And I would say March already got a little bit of a warning, right?
Speaker B:So early in the week, in the week, she started talking shit about Harry's parents, and he busted a glass.
Speaker B:Luckily, she thought it was her, but Vernon knew and was like, go, go to bed, go to bed, go to bed.
Speaker B:Like, whatever.
Speaker B:So he.
Speaker B:He got.
Speaker B:She had a warning shot, Vernon had a warning shot.
Speaker B:They.
Speaker B:He knew better, but whatever.
Speaker B:All right, so she starts talking and, like, when I look at it, okay, obviously those are Harry's parents and he loves them.
Speaker B:And, like, he.
Speaker B:You.
Speaker B:We know.
Speaker B:We saw in book one with the mirror of Erisa.
Speaker B:We know, like, how much he desires them.
Speaker B:But when you think about it, her talking shit about his parents and.
Speaker B:And the Dursleys allowing.
Speaker B:It's like someone going off to World War II, getting killed in action, and then having someone badmouth them.
Speaker B:You know what I mean?
Speaker B:Like, it's like they went off to war.
Speaker B:They fought us in a civil war or whatever, lost their lives to it, and then this is talking about him, right?
Speaker B:And I get it.
Speaker B:She don't know all about that, but the Dursleys do.
Speaker B:And so this is where.
Speaker B:I mean, they should have.
Speaker B:They should have shut that shit down, and they did it.
Speaker A:They should have that.
Speaker A:I mean, where is Petunia?
Speaker B:I mean, she just sits there.
Speaker A:You can hate your sister, but she is still your sister.
Speaker A:And, you know, like, the story was.
Speaker A:It was a car crash.
Speaker A:You know, that's the story we're going with.
Speaker A:But, you know, that's not what really happened.
Speaker A:So when she's.
Speaker A:When this.
Speaker A:When this woman who is not your sister, she's your husband's sister, is going in on her to be like, okay, look, the.
Speaker A:The crash was.
Speaker A:Was tough, but that was.
Speaker A:That's what happened.
Speaker A:Let's move on.
Speaker B:But that's my sister.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:You better watch your mouth.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And I think that's a key.
Speaker B:Like, they didn't even mention between Petunia.
Speaker B:Petunia didn't make a face.
Speaker B:She didn't make a sound.
Speaker B:She make a sweet.
Speaker B:She just let her badmouth her sister like that.
Speaker B:Like.
Speaker A:And then she's talking about, you know, bad seed.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:Petunia comes from that same tree.
Speaker A:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:And so between.
Speaker A:You gotta have at least a little bit of pride.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:You don't.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:You're not happy about the.
Speaker A:The magic stuff.
Speaker A:Whatever.
Speaker A:You still gotta have a little bit of pride because she said she come from.
Speaker A:She's a bad apple.
Speaker A:She's still your family.
Speaker A:Did she talk about you too?
Speaker C:Because it comes even from the best of families.
Speaker C:So, like, it's a backhanded compliment.
Speaker B:Like, I'm so sorry, Petunia.
Speaker B:Your family.
Speaker B:But that's what happened.
Speaker B:Like, I.
Speaker B:This whole.
Speaker B:The whole.
Speaker B:This whole scene.
Speaker B:Like, I was disgusted until.
Speaker B:And then Harry was like.
Speaker B:Harry stood up, was like, don't you talk about.
Speaker B:Don't you put the name in your mouth.
Speaker B:Don't talk about my family.
Speaker B:They didn't die.
Speaker B:No Damn car crash.
Speaker A:My mom's name walked up, Petunia across the face.
Speaker A:Keep my mom name out.
Speaker A:Your mother.
Speaker B:And then sat down and got an Oscar.
Speaker B:Anyway.
Speaker D:He actually got a Tony yesterday.
Speaker B:Matter of fact, I did not watch the Tony.
Speaker B:I need to watch the Tonys.
Speaker A:So getting a Tony at the Tony's.
Speaker B:Award, good for him.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:So Harry, he's had enough.
Speaker B:He's made it seven days, which I think warrants more than just a signature.
Speaker B:But he's like, he's had enough.
Speaker B:You're not gonna badmouth my parents.
Speaker B:You're not gonna say, no, they didn't die in no car crash.
Speaker B:And of course, Marge doesn't know any better.
Speaker B:She's like, yes, they did.
Speaker B:You're a liar.
Speaker B:And he.
Speaker B:She starts running her mouth again, doesn't take that warning.
Speaker B:Harry explodes.
Speaker B:Or more like Marge did, because Harry blows her up like a balloon.
Speaker B:And she like a wit, like the wind bag that she is.
Speaker A:That's that.
Speaker A:That's that passive magic that happens, like when you get pissed.
Speaker A:It's funny because, like, you can't.
Speaker A:He's concerned afterwards that he's gonna get in trouble.
Speaker A:But he didn't, like, do it on purpose.
Speaker B:He didn't do it on purpose.
Speaker C:How's this any different than when he ended up on the roof?
Speaker C:How's this any different than when he grew his hair back out.
Speaker C:Like I know the Ministry can monitor.
Speaker C:And that's the thing.
Speaker C:Like the Ministry monitors whether magic happened, not who made it.
Speaker C:So when Dahvie used the magic in the house, it broke the trace.
Speaker C:But the trace doesn't really know.
Speaker C:Like I'm starting to think that wizard children that live in wizard families don't have the trace because they do.
Speaker B:But it's hard to pinpoint it, right?
Speaker B:Because they clearly just.
Speaker B:They pinpoint a general location, not the person.
Speaker D:I think it's only once you go to Hogwarts also.
Speaker D:I think it's once you go and you've got your wand and you're actually learning magic.
Speaker D:I think that when you're 11 is when the trace picks up on you.
Speaker B:But again, you go home to a magical family, they can't pinpoint.
Speaker B:They don't know who made that spell happen.
Speaker B:So that's another advantage that non Muggle borns have, right?
Speaker B:They can go home and practice magic all they want and there's no real way to stop them because the trace is not very accurate as we see with the Dobby situation.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:So one thing that's really interesting though is that the magic happens.
Speaker A:Like the, the Ministry knows that magic happened in this place.
Speaker A:But I think once you, once you, they, they could probably assess what, what magic was done.
Speaker A:And they probably have to know when magic is done.
Speaker A:Yeah, when magic is done seems to be passively, like not intentionally.
Speaker A:Like Dobby's magic was intentional.
Speaker A:This is passive.
Speaker A:Like CJ said.
Speaker A:When, when he ended up on the roof at the school, when he, when I, when he dropped the glass at the zoo.
Speaker A:All that shit was passive.
Speaker A:He didn't like doodle.
Speaker A:He didn't do an incantation, make it happen.
Speaker C:Or is this just a matter of the magic was performed in the vicinity of Muggles and they can tell where Muggles are.
Speaker B:I mean, that might be part of it too.
Speaker B:I mean, I think part of me feels, especially because the Dursleys are aware of his magic, if he had did magic in front of them, they don't care because they know already.
Speaker B:So he's not exposing magic to people who don't know.
Speaker B:And I feel like this comes up later when they kind of correct this whole situation for him.
Speaker B:Like the fact that they only focus on Marge because she is the non knowledgeable person in the room.
Speaker B:The rest of the Dursleys know.
Speaker B:But anyway, I hopped.
Speaker B:I have to trap her head.
Speaker B:Sorry guys.
Speaker B:Anyway, so she blows up like a balloon and she's on the roof.
Speaker B:And Harry's done.
Speaker B:So he's like, I'm out this.
Speaker B:He goes around his stuff.
Speaker B:He gets to the COVID where his stuff is care is.
Speaker B:Is stored.
Speaker B:He doesn't have to pick the light.
Speaker B:It blows open when he comes here.
Speaker B:That's how Pissies is.
Speaker B:He grabs all his.
Speaker B:Gets all his stuff out of his room, out of that cupboard, and he walks out the house.
Speaker B:Vernon's like, where the.
Speaker B:You're going.
Speaker B:Fix her.
Speaker B:And he's like, you her.
Speaker B:All y'all.
Speaker B:And he leaves.
Speaker B:He walks away, and Marge is still stuck on the roof.
Speaker B:And I though.
Speaker B:I'm like, I'm here for it.
Speaker B:He did the right thing.
Speaker B:So he leaves.
Speaker B:And that's the end of chapter two.
Speaker A:It's funny because he, like, grabs his shit and says, I don't know where I'm going, but I know I can't.
Speaker B:I can't stand my ass here.
Speaker A:I know I can't stay here.
Speaker A:And so y'all gonna have to deal with this Mark situation.
Speaker A:And this is the best part, man.
Speaker A:He's like, I'm gonna be expelled, but I don't know where else to go.
Speaker A:It was worth it.
Speaker A:And I have nowhere to go at all.
Speaker A:So at 13, I'm about to make my way in the world as the most famous wizard.
Speaker A:I'm going to just make my way.
Speaker B:In this world, figure it out.
Speaker B:He's like, if anything is better than this bullshit, So I will figure it out.
Speaker B:Like, and.
Speaker B:And chapter three opens with Harry, like, starting to realize, oh, shit, what am I going to do?
Speaker B:Last time I did magic, or last time someone did magic, it wasn't even me.
Speaker B:They said I'd be expelled.
Speaker B:I'm probably expelled.
Speaker B:I'm probably gonna get.
Speaker B:Get locked up.
Speaker B:Whatever.
Speaker B:I'mma figure it out.
Speaker B:I'm gonna go on a run.
Speaker B:I got money.
Speaker B:I'mma make my way to Diagon Alley.
Speaker B:I'm gonna get my money.
Speaker B:I'm gonna figure it out.
Speaker B:So as he's having these thoughts, he thinks he's gonna get arrested because he's 13.
Speaker B:He starts feeling.
Speaker B:You know, you get that feeling when someone's watching you.
Speaker B:He starts feeling that.
Speaker B:And he's looking around.
Speaker B:He's out on, like, the street.
Speaker A:Somebody's watching me.
Speaker B:He doesn't see anything at first, but he lights up his wand.
Speaker B:Lumos.
Speaker B:He's already.
Speaker B:He's like, whatever.
Speaker B:In for a penny, in for a pound.
Speaker B:I already did magic.
Speaker B:I'm using my wand.
Speaker A:So he goes, lumos, I know, right?
Speaker B:He lights it Up.
Speaker B:And he sees in the dark, two eyes watching him in a big shape that looks like a dog.
Speaker B:I wonder who can change his form into a very large black dog.
Speaker B:Who could it be?
Speaker C:Seriously?
Speaker A:So.
Speaker A:So y'all see, though, why I would assume this man's black?
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker B:No, No, I don't.
Speaker A:Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker A:Let's.
Speaker A:Let's take the clues.
Speaker A:He has escaped.
Speaker A:This man's escape from prison, obviously.
Speaker A:Prison.
Speaker A:You know.
Speaker B:You know, the stereotypes.
Speaker B:The stereotypes.
Speaker A:Either black dog, right?
Speaker A:It's a mom and his black dog that's following Harry.
Speaker A:I thought for sure, because the dog is black.
Speaker A:Mainly because the dog is black.
Speaker A:It wasn't like no golden retriever running around here.
Speaker A:It was a hulking black dog.
Speaker A:I'm like, oh, if you're a black, you probably black dude.
Speaker A:His last name is Black.
Speaker A:Your black dog.
Speaker C:What did he look like to you in your mind's eye?
Speaker C:Was it like Terry Crews?
Speaker C:Is this what you're seeing?
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:No, it was in my mind.
Speaker A:It was.
Speaker A:It was.
Speaker C:Or was it like, Tiny Lister, like Debo?
Speaker A:It was a dude from the Green Mile.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:It was like.
Speaker B:Michael Clark Duncan.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like, I would have went with, like, Blade.
Speaker B:Like, Wesley Snipes type.
Speaker B:He said he looked like a vampire in the picture.
Speaker B:I would have went Blade.
Speaker A:Now, I would have not thought.
Speaker A:I thought it was a hulking black.
Speaker C:Dude, and so I would have thought tiny.
Speaker C:I would have thought Debo.
Speaker A:They're all the same.
Speaker A:They all the same type of dude.
Speaker A:Like, hulking black dude, Terry Crew.
Speaker B:That Debo is a different type of hulking black dude than Michael Clark Duncan.
Speaker B:Like, I don't.
Speaker B:I wouldn't put them in the same category.
Speaker B:Like, Debo comes, you hide your chain.
Speaker B:Michael Clark Duncan comes, you like, what, Go to Green Mile.
Speaker B:I don't know what you do like.
Speaker A:Well, okay, what about Terry Crews?
Speaker A:Which one is.
Speaker A:Which group is Terry Cruising?
Speaker B:Terry Crews is not in the debug.
Speaker C:What's the difference?
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:But he's not in the Debo group, that's for damn sure.
Speaker A:Do you know who's not in any of these groups?
Speaker A:Gary Oldman.
Speaker A:Because people I just talked about completely different dude.
Speaker A:Completely.
Speaker D:So I realize this is a tangent.
Speaker D:I just need y'all to hold on and go with me real quick.
Speaker D:You know Michael Clark Duncan in Omarosa, Manicole.
Speaker D:Stalwart.
Speaker D:Right.
Speaker D:Did anybody see that coming?
Speaker A:Anybody?
Speaker B:No.
Speaker D:Anybody?
Speaker B:No.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker B:I didn't think she liked black men.
Speaker A:I can see that.
Speaker D:You know, you Know.
Speaker B:I mean, that was the biggest surprise to me.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Shocker.
Speaker D:I'm sorry.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:To the Green Mile rip.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker B:But seriously, I did.
Speaker B:That was a shocker to me.
Speaker B:It wasn't who it was.
Speaker B:It was that he was black.
Speaker B:I was like, oh, damn.
Speaker B:Is she.
Speaker B:I would never have said it.
Speaker B:I never would have picked that for her.
Speaker D:Lately, she's been on TV again because she always says it, and I love it.
Speaker D:Omarosa, man.
Speaker D:And gold.
Speaker D:Star Wars.
Speaker D:Like, you've got to say the whole thing.
Speaker D:It's like, he who shall not be named.
Speaker D:You gotta say the whole thing.
Speaker A:I just had.
Speaker A:I did not know Amarosa had.
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker B:I knew of the other names.
Speaker B:I just have never used them.
Speaker B:She's Amorosa.
Speaker D:Really.
Speaker D:I've gotta say the whole thing.
Speaker C:She.
Speaker D:She's been on TV recently talking about how she was surprised how Trump called Kwame, you know, a.
Speaker D:And I was like.
Speaker B:He wasn't surprised.
Speaker B:So you have been many things, but no, at no point that anyone ever think you were stupid.
Speaker B:So surprised.
Speaker B:No, you were not surprised.
Speaker D:Never once.
Speaker A:Never once.
Speaker D:In Harry Potter.
Speaker B:I could.
Speaker D:See her as a black.
Speaker D:As a black McGonagall.
Speaker C:No, she would be Rita Skeeter.
Speaker B:Oh, there we go.
Speaker B:Wait, There we go.
Speaker D:If we had to recast all of Harry Potter.
Speaker A:I want you to stop right there, because I feel like this is a whole episode.
Speaker A:We're not doing it today.
Speaker A:We're not doing that today.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker A:We ain't doing that today, but I like that.
Speaker B:Chapter three, the Night Bus.
Speaker B:We gotta talk about that.
Speaker B:Or maybe we don't have to, because, let's be honest, Night Bus is filler.
Speaker B:Anyways, I love Night Bus.
Speaker B:I'm sure you do.
Speaker B:Yeah, of course you do, Kevin.
Speaker B:You and your Death party.
Speaker B:Death Day party.
Speaker D:Anyways, everything has to be about the plot.
Speaker B:Sure.
Speaker A:That could be for fun.
Speaker A:Like the Night Bus.
Speaker A:My guy says, how do I get out of this situation?
Speaker A:He gets.
Speaker A:He says, how do I get out of the situation?
Speaker A:He stands outside, puts his wand up like it's a thumb.
Speaker B:It's called Deus ex Machina.
Speaker B:That's what this is called.
Speaker D:Why?
Speaker B:Let's talk about why.
Speaker B:Because, okay, he.
Speaker B:He.
Speaker B:He's scared.
Speaker B:Doesn't want to get anywhere.
Speaker B:The.
Speaker B:The dog's there.
Speaker B:He trips over.
Speaker B:The Night Bus shows up.
Speaker B:It says, the Night Bus is for stranded witches and wizards.
Speaker B:If I am a witch or wizard and I need to get somewhere, I can apparate, I can use flu.
Speaker B:I can use so many other ways other than this bus.
Speaker B:It doesn't make sense.
Speaker B:Unless all the witches and wizards they pick up are underage wizards who can't use magic.
Speaker B:Which we know is not the case because we talk about the other passengers and they're all older wizards who could potentially operate somewhere.
Speaker B:So clearly this is a situation where J.K.
Speaker B:rowling was like, I need to get him somewhere.
Speaker B:How can I do it in a way that makes sense?
Speaker B:And it's still whimsical and magical.
Speaker B:I'm going to create this unnecessary bus and put him on it.
Speaker D:They could be squibs.
Speaker D:They could be people like Hagrid who did not finish their training and don't have wands and can't operate.
Speaker A:Dropouts.
Speaker D:They could be dropouts.
Speaker D:They could be people we don't know.
Speaker D:Maybe when you get that old, think about how old Dumbledore is, right?
Speaker D:And think about the people on this bus who look old.
Speaker D:Maybe they're so old they're tired.
Speaker D:How much energy does it take to operate?
Speaker B:Then stay your ass at home, Shantay.
Speaker A:Maybe they got their, their witch license taken away.
Speaker A:Like when people get old and they can't drive no more.
Speaker B:To get the bus, you have to hold out your wand hand.
Speaker B:If I'm a squib, do I have a wand?
Speaker B:And if I'm a squib.
Speaker C:No.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:No, you do not.
Speaker D:Left or right?
Speaker D:It's one of those.
Speaker D:Look, you put them out both and see what happens.
Speaker C:It makes me wonder how many witches and wizards do their wand with their non dominant hand.
Speaker B:I would say zero.
Speaker C:I don't write baseball players who swing with their non dominant hand or golf players who swing with their non dominant.
Speaker B:I used to write with my left hand just to practice.
Speaker B:Because as a kid I was always afraid that if I like lost my right hand, I wouldn't be able to write.
Speaker B:I know.
Speaker B:I know.
Speaker B:So weird.
Speaker A:Who knew that you'd be able to just dictate one day and then it would just do it for you?
Speaker A:Who would have known?
Speaker A:But even if you're squib, I guess you don't have a lawn hand, but they probably still can get you the night bus.
Speaker A:I'm more worried about those wizards that can no longer operate because they had their license taken away.
Speaker A:That's who it came to get.
Speaker A:Came to get those guys.
Speaker D:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker D:And they're too poor to have food.
Speaker D:Buy flu powder.
Speaker B:The Weasleys can afford flu powder?
Speaker B:Barely.
Speaker D:Remember, they only had a little bit left.
Speaker D:They had to dig at the bottom of it to get Enough.
Speaker D:Everybody.
Speaker B:Nine people.
Speaker B:So I think one person.
Speaker D:I feel like you are judging public transportation.
Speaker D:And you know what?
Speaker D:In this era of climate change, we should really be supporting public transportation.
Speaker B:As a Muggle, I'm all about public transportation.
Speaker B:As a wizard, I don't understand its place in their world.
Speaker B:I don't.
Speaker B:Quill.
Speaker B:There were like, three people.
Speaker B:I understand the place of a quill in an ink pot in the wizarding world.
Speaker B:I totally understand that.
Speaker B:I don't understand the night bus.
Speaker B:That for stranded witch and wizard.
Speaker B:Stranded witch and wizards, how I understand a bus.
Speaker D:So, and that goes back to my question, how we got a bus.
Speaker D:We have a whole vehicle, but we don't have ink pins.
Speaker D:Like that doesn't make sense to me.
Speaker B:Anyways, he gets on the bus and he doesn't want to reveal his identity, so he smooths down his hair and he tells the guy his name is Neville Longbottom.
Speaker A:The kid has a scar on his.
Speaker A:A very distinct scar on his face.
Speaker A:He wear these same glasses, and he thought, if I put on a hat, they would never be able to know who I am.
Speaker B:It works for Batman.
Speaker B:It works for Superman.
Speaker C:So also, can we talk about how this is the one time that Harry meets Stan Shunspike?
Speaker C:And for the remainder of the books, when we find out Stan is a Death Eater, Harry's like, nah, nah.
Speaker C:No way he could be a Death Eater.
Speaker A:He's innocent.
Speaker C:He knew this dude for 15 pages.
Speaker B:A couple of pages.
Speaker B:And he didn't really know him because he thought his name was Neville Longbottom.
Speaker A:So listen, this was.
Speaker A:This was.
Speaker A:This.
Speaker A:This was an important interaction.
Speaker A:And sometimes when you meet a person, they stay in your mind forever.
Speaker A:And for Harry, this meeting is staying.
Speaker A:It lasted forever for him, but he.
Speaker C:Can'T think of the names of his classmates that he shares all classes and meals with.
Speaker D:Yeah, the night bus is my favorite part of the movie, too.
Speaker B:I'm happy for you.
Speaker B:All right, so to get on the bus, it's 11 sickles.
Speaker B:But if you want a hot chocolate, you gotta pay 15.
Speaker B:So Harry pays the 15 sickles, which is about half a galleon.
Speaker B:He gets on the bus and off it goes.
Speaker B:He didn't get to drink that hot chocolate.
Speaker B:I know everyone was wondering.
Speaker B:No, he didn't get drinking because they drive crazy.
Speaker B:They're all over the place.
Speaker B:The bus goes up and down.
Speaker B:It will take them anywhere, as long as it's not over the ocean.
Speaker B:Anyway, so as he's on the bus, he sees an article in the Daily Prophet about Sirius Black And Stan, Sean pike gives him some more information.
Speaker B:So I can see why Harry might be surprised Stan becomes a Death Eater.
Speaker B:Because Stan is very much a like, oh my God, you know who.
Speaker B:This guy's crazy.
Speaker B:We're all afraid so.
Speaker B:But then again, Stan is also like a 18, 19 year old pimply kid.
Speaker B:So he's easily influence.
Speaker B:I'm.
Speaker B:I'm sure.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:So we learn more about Black.
Speaker B:We learned that also it's the second time that someone besides Hermione is telling Harry he should probably start reading the newspaper.
Speaker B:So read, read Harry.
Speaker B:Then you won't be so stupid.
Speaker B:Anyways, so we know Black escaped from Azkaban and this is a wizarding prison.
Speaker B:Before, Harry didn't know that this guy is connected to the wizarding world.
Speaker B:Now we know he definitely is.
Speaker B:We know that he's accused of killing 13 people.
Speaker B:One wizard, I wonder who.
Speaker B:And 12 muggles in one using one curse, which is unusual to get that much damage.
Speaker B:And we know that he was brought into Azkaban laughing after he did it.
Speaker B:So we know this guy's crazy.
Speaker B:They think he's the second in command for you know who.
Speaker B:And Harry forgets that he's not supposed to say Lord Voldemort's name.
Speaker B:So he says.
Speaker B:And then Stan freaks out, but whatever.
Speaker B:And we know that he is a powerful wizard who can kill 13 people in one blow.
Speaker B:So one thing that they are very, very particular about is they don't name the Dementors.
Speaker B:They keep calling them the Guards of Azkaban.
Speaker B:The Guards at Azkaban, the Guards at Azkaban, they don't call them Dementors.
Speaker B:We don't get that until chapter 15.
Speaker B:And we also are reminded that when everyone thought that Hagrid opened the Chamber of Secrets they sent him to Azkaban.
Speaker B:And he was there for two.
Speaker B:So Harry remembers the look on Hagrid's face when he found out he was getting sent.
Speaker B:So he's starting to understand how significant it is that Sirius was able to escape.
Speaker B:Anyways, so we get to the Leaky Cauldron and as Harry gets off the bus he is met with Cornelius Fudge, the Minister of Magic.
Speaker B:And Harry, of course, being 13 thinks the reason he's there is to arrest him for doing magic.
Speaker A:Now Harry, Harry, if you did a.
Speaker A:If you did a petty crime the President is not going to be meeting you to put you.
Speaker A:Joe Biden is not rolling up to take you into custody.
Speaker A:So why you think he doesn't know.
Speaker C:That when Hacker got arrested, the Minister.
Speaker B:Was There, Haggard was accused of opening the Chamber of Secrets, and several.
Speaker B:There were several victims involved.
Speaker B:It's a little different than accidentally blowing up.
Speaker C:Still deserves reparations.
Speaker B:He sure does some reparations.
Speaker B:Sure he does reparations.
Speaker A:Not those reparations, but he.
Speaker A:He deserves.
Speaker A:He spent.
Speaker A:He spent two.
Speaker A:Two months in prison.
Speaker A:He does need to be paid back for the two months he spent.
Speaker A:NASCAR ban.
Speaker A:Along with the back pay, not being.
Speaker C:Able to complete his education potential.
Speaker B:50 years.
Speaker B:50 years of his life.
Speaker B:He spent two months in Azkaban, but he paid that sentence for 50 years.
Speaker B:I think they.
Speaker B:They owe him something in.
Speaker B:In return for that.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Anyways, so he gets there, and Fudge outs him to.
Speaker B:To the stand.
Speaker B:Shunt, hike.
Speaker B:And says, oh, Harry, you're here.
Speaker B:And he's like, who?
Speaker B:What did you say?
Speaker B:This is Neville.
Speaker B:Who do you think it is?
Speaker B:He's like, nah, dude, it's Harry Potter.
Speaker B:He's like, I knew it was Harry Potter.
Speaker B:And he commences to continue to call him Neville.
Speaker B:Anyway, so they bring Harry in.
Speaker B:Fudge is like, hey, come on into the leaky cauldron.
Speaker B:I'm gonna take.
Speaker B:He takes him to a side parlor and was like, hey, we were a little concerned when you disappeared from your aunt's and uncle's house, but I'm glad that the night bus picked you up and you're safe.
Speaker B:And at this point, Harry does not question that all like, what the.
Speaker B:Do you care if I left?
Speaker B:Like, this should have been alarm bells.
Speaker B:Like, what?
Speaker B:Anyway, so he's like, don't worry.
Speaker B:We got there.
Speaker B:We took care of everything.
Speaker B:We punctured Marge, and we have adjusted her memory so she doesn't remember a thing.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:But like I said earlier, they don't say anything about Vernon or Dudley or Petunia because they are already aware of magic.
Speaker B:There's no need to erase their memories.
Speaker B:So, again, it is only for those who aren't aware of magic they're trying to hide from the people who don't know at large, not necessarily individuals like the.
Speaker B:The Dursleys, who do know already.
Speaker B:So he's like, no harm, no foul.
Speaker B:We're fine.
Speaker B:And so then Harry goes, so, are you going to arrest me?
Speaker B:And then Fudge is like, what for?
Speaker B:He's like, well, last year when this elf did some magic, I got a letter saying I'd be expelled this year.
Speaker B:Now I'm saying, you.
Speaker B:You letting it go.
Speaker B:He's like, it was accidental magic.
Speaker B:It's all good.
Speaker B:Whatever.
Speaker B:He's like, what's changed?
Speaker B:He's like, well, you know, situations are different.
Speaker B:The climate has changed again.
Speaker B:Harry is not putting two and two together.
Speaker B:He's still like, okay, I guess I'm fine.
Speaker B:And Fudge is like, you want to be expelled?
Speaker B:He's like, no.
Speaker B:It's like, just shut up about it.
Speaker B:Get in here.
Speaker A:So he's like, listen, there's someone dangerous on the loose.
Speaker B:We're real right?
Speaker A:We're real worried about that.
Speaker A:Okay?
Speaker A:We're not really worried about.
Speaker B:We don't care about you blowing up this whatever.
Speaker B:Yeah, anyone would have done the same.
Speaker B:And so at this point, Harry is starting to see this is kind of sus.
Speaker B:Like all of a sudden every time I.
Speaker B:I bring up something, he's starting looking nervous.
Speaker B:So he's like, hey, so what about this black guy?
Speaker B:You found him?
Speaker B:And so Fudge gets a little like he's getting all, you know, high strung.
Speaker B:He's like, no, we haven't found him yet.
Speaker B:So, you know, make sure you're not wandering around here.
Speaker B:You know, you're probably gonna need to find a place to stay.
Speaker B:Why don't you just have some rooms in the leaky cauldron?
Speaker B:You can stay here for the next couple of weeks.
Speaker B:He's like, okay.
Speaker B:And he goes like, harry, make sure you're back in here before dark, you know, before the street lights come on and Tom's gonna watch out for you.
Speaker B:And he's like, all right, that's okay.
Speaker B:So he tells Harry, I got your room.
Speaker B:You're gonna stay there.
Speaker B:And he.
Speaker B:Harry's like, all right, somewhere's going on here, but yeah, sure, I'll stay and I won't go out before dark.
Speaker B:And I'm happy that I have two weeks without the Dursleys in.
Speaker B:But he's like, hey, so I have this letter for Hogsmeade and I need someone to sign it.
Speaker B:Can you sign it?
Speaker B:And if Fudge gets even more nervous, he's like, what the hell is he so nervous about?
Speaker B:He's like, no, I can't.
Speaker B:I'm not your guardian.
Speaker B:He's like, yeah, you're the minister of magic, though.
Speaker A:I'm sure you signed Trump everything.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:He's like, no, you probably shouldn't be hanging around the Hogsmeade anyway.
Speaker B:You know what?
Speaker B:Yep, it's better if you don't go.
Speaker B:Nevermind.
Speaker B:Here's like, what the hell?
Speaker B:So Fudge leaves quickly because before Harry asks him any more questions, Tom takes him to his room.
Speaker B:And he is excited that one Hedwig meets him in his Room and two, he has a couple of weeks without the Dursleys and that's how chapter three ends.
Speaker A:So here's.
Speaker A:Here's a.
Speaker A:Here's a couple of things, right?
Speaker A:I got a couple of things to talk about here.
Speaker A:First and foremost, when you can't even get the Minister of Magic to sign your permission slip.
Speaker A:Props to you for keeping that in mind.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:Once you find out that you're not getting expelled.
Speaker A:Cool.
Speaker A:Let's pivot.
Speaker A:I would like to go to hogs.
Speaker A:This has been the chief thing on my mind sign since I received this letter.
Speaker A:So can we get this?
Speaker A:Anyone?
Speaker A:Anyone?
Speaker A:Can you, sir?
Speaker A:Can you.
Speaker B:Somebody?
Speaker A:Can you.
Speaker A:You.
Speaker B:Somebody sign this paper.
Speaker A:Somebody sign this for me.
Speaker A:Some you right there.
Speaker A:You.
Speaker A:Please.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:Okay, so that was.
Speaker A:First, I respect the Harry still getting that sign or trying to get that sign.
Speaker A:Secondly, if you're Cornelius Fudge and the most notorious prisoner has escaped from prison and you know that he wants to kill, as long as far as you know, kill the most famous person in your community.
Speaker A:And then if that man succeeds, what happens to Cornelius Fudge?
Speaker B:Oh, I'm sure he'll get impeached or something.
Speaker A:Like is the impeachment.
Speaker A:You go down as probably the worst Minister of Magic ever.
Speaker A:Because there was one man who wanted to kill the most famous person.
Speaker A:You couldn't stop him.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:And to your point, I'm assuming that Harry is here on Ministry of Magic Resources.
Speaker C:Like, pretty sure he didn't have to pay for his room.
Speaker C:They're paying for that.
Speaker C:We find out in the next chapter that he's not paying for his ice cream sundaes.
Speaker C:He gets a free one every half hour.
Speaker B:Every half hour.
Speaker A:Secret Service.
Speaker A:He has secret service all throughout this place.
Speaker A:Because he is now on lockdown by the Ministry.
Speaker B:Because Cornelius giving him a free, free ride to King's Cross Station.
Speaker B:When he has to get back on the Hogwarts Express, it's because security everywhere.
Speaker A:Because like I just said, Cornelius knows how terrible this is for him politically.
Speaker A:This is the worst thing that could happen to him of all time.
Speaker A:For this man to escape it is.
Speaker A:While I am the Minister of Magic, this is if.
Speaker A:If we can't catch him.
Speaker B:And remember, no one else has escaped from Mask of Man.
Speaker B:So even if he wasn't the notorious Serious Black, the fact that someone has escaped from an inescapable prison under his watch, it's already bad.
Speaker A:Already bad.
Speaker A:It happened to be the guy that wants to kill the most famous person in our world.
Speaker A:Second, doubly bad if he Succeeds.
Speaker A:My whole political career is over.
Speaker A:My life is probably over pretty much.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker A:I don't.
Speaker A:I have to move to Transylvania.
Speaker A:I don't know what I'm have to do.
Speaker A:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:Like, I gotta go.
Speaker A:I gotta go off the bridge.
Speaker A:I gotta go off the grid.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:Because there's no peace for me.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:There's no peace.
Speaker B:One thing that kind of struck me as I was reading this is, you know, when they go to talk to the Dursleys, he makes a point of saying to Harry, oh, and don't worry, the Dursleys will take you back next summer as long as you spend Christmas and Easter at school.
Speaker B:And that kind of made me think.
Speaker B:And I, I know it's going to come up in later books.
Speaker B:Like he is aware of the fact that Harry has to stay with these awful Muggles to like get the stench, you know, so that he is protected.
Speaker B:Like he's aware.
Speaker B:And he also knows that they're awful and mean and hate him and, and like they're all kind of supporting, promoting, you know, facilitating Harry's kind of abuse every summer.
Speaker B:So I thought that was something that kind of.
Speaker B:I was like, damn, he knows too.
Speaker B:They all know that Harry has to remain with them for, you know, to establish residency or whatever.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:And they're all cool with it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:They're all like, that's fine.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:They treat you like, that's fine.
Speaker B:They treat him so bad he blew somebody up.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:It's good, it's fine.
Speaker A:That's where it is fine here.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:It's all right.
Speaker B:So chapter four, called the Leaky.
Speaker B:Cause it's pretty much Harry's time with his freedom before school starts.
Speaker B:And you know, there's some bullet points here we should talk about.
Speaker B:But I have to be honest.
Speaker B:This seems.
Speaker B:This also is kind of a filler chapter.
Speaker B:Like he spends his free time in freedom.
Speaker B:He's a 13 year old who has free reign to run up and down Diagon Alley.
Speaker B:He can't go to Muggle London.
Speaker B:Huh.
Speaker B:With, with so many resources, unlimited resources, because his parents have buku bucks and he has access to that.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker A:He's the kid in blank check.
Speaker A:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:That's who he is right now I.
Speaker B:Would say he was more responsible because he prevents himself from spending too much money.
Speaker B:But he does.
Speaker B:I mean, he gets Sundays for free every half hour.
Speaker B:So he like, what more money do you need?
Speaker B:But he, he doesn't have to hide, do his homework anymore.
Speaker B:So he goes to the ice cream shop and he does his Hogwarts homework and he gets help.
Speaker B:We, we see that there's a new on the market.
Speaker B: It's not the Nimbus: Speaker B:Now it's a Firebolt.
Speaker B:And it is expensive.
Speaker B:It's so expensive they don't tell you the price.
Speaker B:You have to go and meet with them.
Speaker B:So they have smelling salts when you faint for time, I just say, yeah.
Speaker C:I make it a common practice that me and I don't allow my wife to go to places that they don't tell me the price because she will spend it and I'll be like, what happened?
Speaker D:What happened?
Speaker C:It should be like, well the price, it was worth it.
Speaker C:I was like, you don't know if it was worth it.
Speaker C:You didn't know how much it costs.
Speaker B:Well, this 13 year old is running free.
Speaker B:So there's no, there's no CJ there to prevent him from spending his money.
Speaker B:Sorry cj.
Speaker B:Next time.
Speaker B:So he's having a good time, he's hiring the Hog.
Speaker B:One thing that is annoying is that he goes, he knows that Ron and Hermione are gonna come the last week before break to get the before breaks over to get their books and he goes and buys them by himself.
Speaker B:Like he couldn't wait and hang out with friends or whatever I was.
Speaker B:Damn, you didn't even wait for them.
Speaker A:Well, okay, I'm gonna give him a pass on that though because this is the first time he got look at these books freely.
Speaker A:It's the first time he could do this without having anybody stopping him.
Speaker A:He ain't got to have the quill in the bed, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:So he's like, I'm trying to get this shit popping.
Speaker A:I'm trying to get all the books I can.
Speaker A:I want to look into these things a little bit early.
Speaker B:I get it.
Speaker B:And he is there like, I'm already here, why should I wait?
Speaker B:I got you.
Speaker B:But I'm like, dang, you knew your homies were coming, you can wait for them, whatever.
Speaker B:So on the last day before breaks over, he runs into Ron and Hermione and they tell him they already knew he was at the Leaky Cauldron and they went there looking for him.
Speaker B:And Harry's like, how do you know?
Speaker B:He said, oh my dad.
Speaker B:So we know our Arthur Weasley misuses his power at the ministry.
Speaker B:And here's another example.
Speaker B:So they already knew he was there.
Speaker D:How do we know that Fudge just didn't tell him because they know that he goes to the Weasley's house though that is fair.
Speaker B:That's not his department.
Speaker B:That is not his department.
Speaker A:Listen, Natasha does make a valid point.
Speaker D:I definitely think Fudge let them know.
Speaker D:Let.
Speaker D:Let the wet.
Speaker D:Let Arthur know where Harry was because he has a history of being Ron's friend and of staying at the Weasley's home when he last year.
Speaker D:I'm durstly.
Speaker A:I think everybody at the ministry knows that Harry's at the Leaky Cauldron because that's the kind of.
Speaker A:That's some office gossip that definitely gets around the Ministry.
Speaker B:I got sent around on those flying airplanes which.
Speaker C:Is it really safe for everyone to know where Harry is if you're trying to hide him from one dude?
Speaker B:That's a point.
Speaker B:That is a point.
Speaker D:Also Cornelius Fudge does not believe.
Speaker D:You know.
Speaker D:He believes that he can keep Harry safe.
Speaker D:He doesn't realize that the people he needs to hide him from are people within the ministry.
Speaker B:Yeah, I, I, I don't even think Cornelius Fudge considers the fact that there might be moles in the Ministry Because I don't.
Speaker B:I mean he's an inept politician, but that's just me.
Speaker A:That's true.
Speaker C:Look, all I'm saying is if more than one person knows it, it's not a secret.
Speaker D:Yeah, very much truth.
Speaker B:This is truth.
Speaker B:Well, and you know, it wasn't like he's hanging out at the Leaky Cauldron all the time.
Speaker B:There are plenty of wizards that go through there.
Speaker B:They know he's there.
Speaker B:Like it's.
Speaker B:This is not a very well kept secret.
Speaker B:I don't understand how he expects Harry to be safe just because he's hiding in plain sight.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:He's hiding in plain sight.
Speaker A:Everyone knows that Sirius Black is on the loose.
Speaker A:Everyone also knows that Sirius Black has something to do with blowing up 13 people or some shit.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:Everybody knows this story.
Speaker A:Everybody knows that he was in on getting his parents killed.
Speaker A:He was Voldemort's right hand man.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:Harry Potter is seen by everybody which is why everybody in the ministry know he's hiding in plain sight.
Speaker A:Everybody know where Harry's at.
Speaker A:Harry doesn't know that he is in a large cage being over there.
Speaker A:The Leaky Cauldron at the Diagon Alley.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:He is in a large cage and everyone's watching the rat in the cage.
Speaker B:So damn, he's a rat now.
Speaker B:Damn.
Speaker A:I mean that's what's going on here, right?
Speaker A:Because they have him here.
Speaker A:He's an open seeker.
Speaker A:He's hanging out in the pub.
Speaker A:Everyone sees Harry all day.
Speaker A:So since everyone knows what Sirius looks like in his human form, they don't know that he's an Animagus.
Speaker A:But in his human form there's no way that this dude can sneak up on Harry Potter with Harry Potter walking around here openly all day long.
Speaker A:Big brandedness Cornelius big brained it true.
Speaker C:Now this is one of his level of ineptitude.
Speaker C:He hasn't risen to it to get fired yet.
Speaker B:Well I mean there's a point like there's no way serious can get to Harry because everyone's eyes are on him so it makes sense.
Speaker B:So Harry asks Ron, why do you think the minister let me off?
Speaker B:And rounds like because you're Harry Potter.
Speaker B:Which he's not wrong.
Speaker B:He's not wrong.
Speaker B:That's probably why.
Speaker A:Also Cordelians can't have that on his record.
Speaker A:I got Harry got expelled while I was the Minister of Magic.
Speaker A:Can't have that happening.
Speaker C:Also can we talk about how when Harry meets up with Ron and Hermione he talks about their appearances from vacation with Ron having more freckles and Hermione being brown.
Speaker C:This was our clue then that Hermione was black with people freaked out about in Cursed Child and like if you, if you just misread the first two books and you're like okay, whatever, we didn't see it.
Speaker C:We talk about her being brown now.
Speaker C:We recast Dumbledore here.
Speaker C:Why couldn't they do the same with Hermione?
Speaker B:I mean we do have a show coming up so maybe they will.
Speaker B:Because in all the Cursed Child plays she's black.
Speaker C:So yep, with that said, I would just like to have a person of color in the big three.
Speaker C:Do I think it's going to happen?
Speaker C:No, I expect her to be very fair skinned in the new one but that's fine because Percy Jackson.
Speaker C:Annabeth was black.
Speaker B:I was gonna say you got Percy Jackson.
Speaker C:Yep, I already got mine.
Speaker B:It makes so much sense.
Speaker B:I mean the whole time I was reading Percy Jackson I was like she's black.
Speaker B:I'm okay with it.
Speaker B:Anyways, I, I did a serious black but on the Percy Jackson side.
Speaker B:See, See Kev, you're not alone.
Speaker B:So they also let him know they're all staying in the Leaky Cauldron.
Speaker B:So they're all going to go to King's Cross Station together and later we find out they're going to get a special estate escort by the Ministry.
Speaker B:Harry's like how the hell we get all this.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And Arthur's like, oh, you know, I.
Speaker B:I just.
Speaker B:We don't have our car anymore pointed.
Speaker B:Look at you guys who destroyed it.
Speaker B:So they're gonna give us a ride.
Speaker B:And Harry's like, that don't seem right.
Speaker B:And Arthur's like, let it go, kid.
Speaker B:Let it go.
Speaker A:So please go with it.
Speaker B:Ron also did get his new wand.
Speaker B:So he has a brand new wand that hopefully is better suited to him so he can do some real magic.
Speaker B:We shall see.
Speaker B:So they decide to go because Hermione has some birthday money, even though her birthday's in September.
Speaker B:I don't.
Speaker B:Her mom gave her money ahead of time.
Speaker B:They're going to go get her an owl.
Speaker B:She wants an owl.
Speaker B:She doesn't get an owl.
Speaker B:She ends up getting Crookshanks.
Speaker B:But while they're in the pet store, we get some crucial information that we need to keep in our noggins for later in the book.
Speaker B:One, we know that magical creatures who are pets supposedly have magical powers, are supposed to.
Speaker B:The other rats in the store are doing circus tricks and they're very active.
Speaker B:Scabbers doesn't do that.
Speaker B:We also learn that mice that are rats that Scabbers breed usually live for three years.
Speaker B:And we know Scabbers been around for like 12.
Speaker A:He was Percy's and then he was Ron's.
Speaker A:So he's been around for like 12 years because Harry's 13.
Speaker A:But you know, that's neither here nor there.
Speaker A:But he's been around doing absolutely nothing and he's missing like a toe.
Speaker A:And then we also know that Crookshanks ain't with this rat at all.
Speaker B:And this is kind of my point.
Speaker B:So these creatures supposedly have magical powers.
Speaker B:We don't know what Hedwigs are other than, I don't know.
Speaker B:She speaks English because Harry talks to her all the time and she seems to understand.
Speaker B:Crookshanks does not like Scabbers at all.
Speaker A:Nope.
Speaker B:Try to attack him in the store.
Speaker B:So maybe Crookshanks's special magic is that it doesn't like Anime Guy or I don't know.
Speaker B:Or it can see if there's a magical person.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:We'll see.
Speaker B:But one thing I do want to point out, the name Crookshanks is I believe we know J.K.
Speaker B:rowling has, you know, everything has a meaning.
Speaker B: and illustrator in the early: Speaker B:And he's actually one of the illustrators who is responsible for the John Bull character.
Speaker B:John Bull for England is like Uncle Sam for us.
Speaker B:So he's.
Speaker B:This is where this name comes from.
Speaker B:It's not some, like, random name.
Speaker B:He was also very racist.
Speaker B:So whatever.
Speaker D:Anyways, so how do you think that ties in?
Speaker D:Like, why.
Speaker D:Why do you think she chose that?
Speaker B:This cat's racist against anime guy.
Speaker A:Obviously.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker C:And it's even more obvious that it's racist because when it's like you're racist, it's like, no, I have one anime guy friend.
Speaker C:And then it points to Sirius.
Speaker A:Yeah, I mean, all of it checks out.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker A:Natasha has no words.
Speaker A:Obviously she agrees.
Speaker D:So, no, we're gonna let that ride.
Speaker B:It might come back later.
Speaker B:We'll see.
Speaker B:So we also learned that Hermione is taking a shit ton of classes.
Speaker B:How will she get to them all?
Speaker B:No human.
Speaker B:How's she gonna do it?
Speaker B:We'll find out later.
Speaker A:Just heard her degrees yes.
Speaker B:Keep her warm My degrees so keep me warm on my park bench Extra.
Speaker A:Classes no, I've never been late Degrees.
Speaker B:But you know what?
Speaker B:My degrees keep me satisfied.
Speaker B:I have a job.
Speaker B:I can count the change of your personal.
Speaker B:Really fast.
Speaker C:I'm sad because you were not allowed to listen to those albums anymore.
Speaker B:You know, the before time.
Speaker B:The before time as someone with three degrees.
Speaker B:All y'all.
Speaker B:Anyways, so they're in the leaky cauldron.
Speaker B:They're having a good time.
Speaker B:It's late at night.
Speaker B:Ron forgot something.
Speaker B:Harry wants to go look for it.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:That part isn't important.
Speaker B:What is important is that he overhears a conversation with Arthur and Molly Weasley when they're talking about whether or not Harry should know.
Speaker B:And what should he know about?
Speaker B:He should know that Sirius Black is escaping Azkaban for him.
Speaker B:He's coming for him.
Speaker B:Or at least that's what they think.
Speaker B:Because a garden Azkaban said he would hear Sirius in his sleep say over and over, he's at Hogwarts.
Speaker B:He's at Hogwarts.
Speaker B:And they know Sirius had something to do with Harry's parents getting killed.
Speaker B:We don't know all about it yet.
Speaker B:We do know.
Speaker B:But we don't know yet in the book.
Speaker B:But they know that the person who he's coming to Hogwarts to kill is most likely Harry.
Speaker B:And they're going back and forth about whether or not to tell Harry.
Speaker A:This.
Speaker A:This book I have to get.
Speaker A:I have to give JK credit because she keeps the mystery going for a long time and keep leaving the.
Speaker A:The.
Speaker A:The little Easter eggs and little breadcrumbs that you're following and it's taking you completely down the wrong track.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:And it's intentional, but you're like following the breadcrumbs because there's just things you don't know that when you read it, you're like, what?
Speaker A:Like when you find out about Pedigree, you're like, wait, so he say he had talking about that.
Speaker A:He ain't talking about hair this whole time.
Speaker A:The dog that coming that's been stalking him, that's a person.
Speaker A:What?
Speaker A:Like there's just so many, like, gotcha moments.
Speaker A:Which is one of the reasons why this book is my favorite.
Speaker A:Because you 1 and 2 don't have those gotcha moments, right?
Speaker B:True, true.
Speaker A:Even with the.
Speaker A:With the Is who's.
Speaker A:Who's.
Speaker A:Who's the Arab?
Speaker A:Slytherin ain't no.
Speaker A:There was not a second that I thought it was Harry.
Speaker A:There was not a single second that I thought it was Harry.
Speaker A:I thought it was Draco.
Speaker A:For maybe five seconds.
Speaker C:You were thinking like, harry, can we circle back and make sure that Draco was not the Heir Slytherin?
Speaker C:Like, he's probably talking about that in Year six.
Speaker B:I just want us all to make sure that this isn't the guy.
Speaker B:Come on, guys.
Speaker B:Come on.
Speaker A:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:And so but like, whereas in this one, you.
Speaker A:All of the.
Speaker A:All of the.
Speaker A:All the data is there.
Speaker A:It's going to be there throughout the book and it's going.
Speaker A:It's written so well that it has you leading you to the path that you're wrong the entire time.
Speaker A:Yet when you read it again, the clues to where you should be going the entire time.
Speaker A:Like them saying Scabbers should be dead four times over.
Speaker A:Like you.
Speaker A:You miss that and you're like, well, he's just a magical dude.
Speaker A:Maybe he's just alive.
Speaker A:But like, he has no magical.
Speaker A:They tell you right there this shouldn't be alive and he has no magical properties.
Speaker A:Like, so then there should be something else there.
Speaker A:But you're not even thinking about that because you don't know that much about Animagus.
Speaker B:There's also a line in there where.
Speaker B:Because Ron feel likes he's so sick that he's like, he's.
Speaker B:His whiskers are droopy and he's looking pale scared.
Speaker B:Because serious Black, he knows Sirius Black is looking for him.
Speaker B:It's like a throwaway you wouldn't even.
Speaker B:Until you realize you're like, oh.
Speaker B:Like he knew back then.
Speaker B:He's like, oh, Sirius is out.
Speaker B:He's coming for me.
Speaker B:And he was shook.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:As he should be.
Speaker A:Because he knew that what he did.
Speaker A:And so it's.
Speaker A:It's good.
Speaker A:And this is.
Speaker A:This is why.
Speaker A:This is why.
Speaker A:This is probably my favorite book.
Speaker A:Because this is one.
Speaker A:This is the only one.
Speaker A:Because even in six, I didn't care that much about the title.
Speaker A:You know what I'm saying?
Speaker A:Like, I didn't care who the Half Blood Prince was.
Speaker A:But, like, in this one, I, like, cared.
Speaker A:I'm like, what is.
Speaker A:What is going to happen?
Speaker A:What is happening?
Speaker A:Bite my fingernails.
Speaker B:I thought the Half Blood Prince was Voldemort.
Speaker B:I was just like, oh, it must be Voldemort.
Speaker A:Another Voldemort thing.
Speaker C:I was gonna say.
Speaker C:Do you think that you also lost interest in 6 because it was the tried and true?
Speaker C:Harry thinks it's Draco, except this time you actually knew it.
Speaker C:Like, Draco was behind the going ons and everything.
Speaker C:Like, not the Half Blood Prince part, but the whole mystery of the who done it.
Speaker C:Harry's actively trying to figure stuff out here versus there.
Speaker C:Harry's actively trying to figure it out.
Speaker C:But you already know.
Speaker A:I'll tell you, I know exactly.
Speaker D:I don't think that the mystery in Six is the who is that part.
Speaker D:Who done it.
Speaker D:It's the him traveling with Dumbledore, getting the locket.
Speaker D:It.
Speaker D:We don't care about who did it.
Speaker D:We're trying to figure out, like, how do we keep Dumbledore alive?
Speaker B:Like, I was just like, oh, that's Voldemort's book.
Speaker B:Whatever the.
Speaker B:What's going on with this, this locket?
Speaker B:Like, what are these?
Speaker B:Where are they going?
Speaker A:Yeah, but, like, like, also 6.
Speaker A:The real reason 6 is not that interesting is because of the penultimate episode, if you will.
Speaker A:And you know that the, like, fires coming next.
Speaker A:And so I never got up for six because I knew seven was where everything was, where we were going.
Speaker A:Because it's year seven, it says the years on the side.
Speaker A:So going from 5 to 76 was just like a speed bump.
Speaker A:That's how I felt about it.
Speaker D:I felt about book six the way I feel about the ninth episode of every Game of Thrones season except for the last one.
Speaker D:It was always the gut punch, you know what I mean?
Speaker D:And so, you know, like, the fact that, like, Dumbledore dies and we have, you know, all that stuff.
Speaker A:Get out of here.
Speaker A:You with the spoiler.
Speaker A:Forget that part, Natasha.
Speaker A:This chick been spoiling everything since the moment she started reading the chapter synopsis.
Speaker A:The last one I think.
Speaker A:But another thing on Natasha is that when it ends up being Snape, I'm like, bro, I don't give a about this dude.
Speaker A:I have never cared about this dude.
Speaker A:So, like, it was even.
Speaker A:It was so anti climactic for me because I was like, all right, it wasn't Voldemort this time.
Speaker A:Whatever.
Speaker A:Where is Voldemort?
Speaker A:Why is this dude still alive?
Speaker A:Let's go from five to seven.
Speaker A:That's what I was looking for.
Speaker A:So six was just like a.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:We had to have a book.
Speaker A:We had to have a six year.
Speaker D:And then we get Professor Slughorn.
Speaker D:Like, it's just so I.
Speaker D:I do feel like three sets us up so well.
Speaker D:Like one and two were fluffy and warm and welcome to the wizarding world.
Speaker D:It's a little bit of danger.
Speaker D:Okay.
Speaker D:And then three, it's just like, all.
Speaker A:Right, we in this.
Speaker B:You're not in anymore.
Speaker B:You're not a guest anymore.
Speaker B:It's time.
Speaker B:You know, we in this.
Speaker D:You know, you get a high ranking official from.
Speaker D:Was that chapter three or whatever you.
Speaker D:You get Cornelius Fudge up front and you're like, oh, we're paying attention.
Speaker D:This one.
Speaker B:Here's the funniest part about this.
Speaker B:Harry just hears that this escaped lunatic is after him to kill him and he still only cares about going to Hawks.
Speaker B:Me wants to kill me.
Speaker B:That what else is new?
Speaker A:He said, he said.
Speaker A:They, they.
Speaker A:They said someone's coming to kill me, man.
Speaker A:I ain't never gonna make it on the plane now.
Speaker A:I ain't never gonna house me.
Speaker A:Now.
Speaker B:That is such my dude teenager right there.
Speaker D:I just want to have fun.
Speaker B:That's what happens.
Speaker D:I know I need this.
Speaker B:That's what happened.
Speaker A:Cool.
Speaker A:This just gonna kill me and all.
Speaker A:But what about that hog?
Speaker B:What about hogs me?
Speaker B:Who's gonna pay for me?
Speaker D:Listen, when you're 13, you are.
Speaker D:You're invincible.
Speaker D:You have no idea of like, you know, you don't.
Speaker A:You don't get no pass on this one because this dude's coming to literally kill him.
Speaker B:He's trying to kill him.
Speaker B:He escaped an inescapable prison just for him.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And he realized an inescapable magic, but hogs me though.
Speaker B:You did you have parents who will sign for you?
Speaker B:Oh, great.
Speaker B:I don't.
Speaker B:But whatever he goes to bae.
Speaker B:He's like, whatever.
Speaker B:This is not gonna kill me.
Speaker B:I've already escaped Voldemort three times.
Speaker B:I ain't worried about that.
Speaker B:Hogs me though, man.
Speaker B:And that's the.
Speaker D:One.
Speaker D:Get some, some Some butterbeer.
Speaker D:God damn it.
Speaker B:That's the thing.
Speaker B:He doesn't even know about butterbeer yet.
Speaker B:He just knows that he gets to hang out with his friends on the weekend.
Speaker B:That's all he wants to do.
Speaker D:Singular focus, man.
Speaker D:That is the best portrayal of teenagers.
Speaker B:Teenager is accurate.
Speaker B:Accurate.
Speaker A:So with that being said, that's the end of chapter four.
Speaker A:I want to talk about.
Speaker A:I want to talk about something that's important.
Speaker A:Fiscal responsibility.
Speaker A:Okay?
Speaker A:I want some justice for finances, because for your budget.
Speaker A:For your budget.
Speaker A:I'm here to find justice for that.
Speaker A:Because we see two different looks at fiscal responsibility in this book.
Speaker A:We have the people that are rich in Harry Potter, who says, I have all this money in wizard money, first and foremost, I have no idea how I'm gonna get anywhere because I have zero Muggle dollars, but all of my money is in offshore stocks.
Speaker A:I have all this money in offshore, and I can't seem to have two pennies to rub together.
Speaker A:So I have no idea how I'm gonna make it in this world now that I've left home and decided to become emancipated at 13.
Speaker A:I don't know how I'm gonna make it in this world because all my money is in offsh.
Speaker A:So he sits out and says, how am I gonna do this?
Speaker A:Raises his hand, one hand.
Speaker A:The bus comes.
Speaker A:They say, I take 13 sickles.
Speaker A:15.
Speaker A:If you want to splurge.
Speaker A:If you're gonna splurge and get that hot chocolate, it's 15.
Speaker A:And he's like, I got that kind of money.
Speaker B:I got.
Speaker B:I got that.
Speaker D:Did he have the sickles on him?
Speaker B:He had.
Speaker B:He had to pay.
Speaker B:So he had sickles.
Speaker B:He had some of his money, yeah.
Speaker B:He can't use wizarding money in the Muggle world, right?
Speaker A:So he's.
Speaker A:The conversion rate is not good, so he doesn't know how to do that.
Speaker A:Oh, he.
Speaker A:He goes.
Speaker A:Once he's there.
Speaker A:And then fudge is like, you're.
Speaker A:You're on your own.
Speaker A:He's like, cool.
Speaker A:I'm out here.
Speaker A:I gotta be responsible with this money because I gotta make sure this money lasts me until at least I'm 18.
Speaker A:Cause, you know, I'm getting expelled, so I'm just.
Speaker A:I'm just out living.
Speaker A:I'm living in this world now.
Speaker A:I got to make sure this money gets me to 18.
Speaker A:I have now, as the three of us know, a small fortune.
Speaker A:But he doesn't understand at 13, exactly how this money works.
Speaker B:I don't think it's a small Fortune.
Speaker A:Large fortune.
Speaker B:I think it's a very respectably sized fortune.
Speaker A:So when he's looking at the Firebolt, you know, the kid only have, like, one track mind.
Speaker A:Quidditch all he ever care about.
Speaker A:And so he's like, quidditch and Hogsmeade right now.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:But he's like, how do I get this firebolt?
Speaker A:He's like, ah, man, I can't really afford it.
Speaker A:Even though he's rich, he's like, I can't really afford it right now because I got to be fiscally responsible with this money because I don't know how I'm gonna earn anymore at 30.
Speaker B:He understands.
Speaker B:He understands economics.
Speaker C:He's also a Nepo baby who gets to stay there for free with free ice cream and people just fawning over him and taking care of him.
Speaker A:Right?
Speaker A:But he knew that.
Speaker A:Take care of his money, but he.
Speaker B:Also knows that's not going to last forever.
Speaker B:And so he has to be fiscally responsible.
Speaker B:And he doesn't go and buy a Firebolt, but you find out later he doesn't need to because he's rich.
Speaker B:And rich people get shit for free.
Speaker B:Whatever.
Speaker A:But now we have the other side.
Speaker A:We have a family that is known poor.
Speaker A:Known poor.
Speaker A:They come into.
Speaker A:They hit the lotto and they win 700 galleons.
Speaker A:And they said, fuck it.
Speaker A:We gonna blow it on a vacation.
Speaker B:That's 100 galleons per kid.
Speaker B:Like, with two left for, like.
Speaker B:Yeah, they could have made that work.
Speaker A:But you.
Speaker B:You just got college fund, maybe.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:You got gifted this money.
Speaker A:You said, we just got to make sure we have enough to get Ron a new one.
Speaker A:That's it.
Speaker A:That's all we.
Speaker C:Seven gallons.
Speaker B:That's seven gallons.
Speaker C:One percent.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker D:We ain't worried about books.
Speaker D:We ain't worried about clubs.
Speaker B:How about new room?
Speaker D:None of that.
Speaker D:None of that shit.
Speaker B:Just.
Speaker D:It just.
Speaker A:Natasha, I know you love this part.
Speaker A:Go ahead and go in on this, because.
Speaker A:Explain this to me, because we talk about physical responsibility City and Molly and Arthur just came into a bit of money.
Speaker A:More money they probably seen in a long time.
Speaker A:Let's talk about this trip to Egypt.
Speaker D:I guess my question would be, like, why?
Speaker D:Yeah, they just went six months ago.
Speaker D:They went.
Speaker D:They went over Christmas break.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker D:Now, I would argue that showing your kids culture is more important than them having material things.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Are you one of those people?
Speaker D:No.
Speaker D:They could have went to the museum and put some money to the side for later.
Speaker D:Like, show them culture at an attainable level.
Speaker D:Like you know, they could have, like, England.
Speaker B:Away.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker D:You know, and, like, take them to the Muggle Museum.
Speaker D:England.
Speaker D:We already know England stole half of Egypt's artifact anyway.
Speaker B:They got all that Egypt at the British Museum.
Speaker B:They'd have to go to Egypt for it.
Speaker D:Right down the street, like, what are we doing here?
Speaker D:And then next year, when they need some shit, it's just like.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:Well, even better, right?
Speaker A:They just went over Christmas to Egypt on a regular budget.
Speaker A:Why are you going back to Egypt and balling out?
Speaker A:Why is that the move?
Speaker D:It's like people get a big tax return.
Speaker A:I don't get that.
Speaker A:You, you just went and did it efficiently because y'all have no money.
Speaker B:I would at least save half of it.
Speaker C:No, it's like the people that go to the same vacation spot every year just because they like it.
Speaker C:Like, some people's thing is they go to Disneyland and they spend 10 grand and that's what they do.
Speaker C:You have other people that go on ski trips every year and they go skiing at the same spot.
Speaker C:Maybe this is just the Weasley's happy place is Aegis.
Speaker A:But this is what I don't understand, cj.
Speaker A:So what's your point?
Speaker A:Some people go to Disneyland and they make it happen for $200.
Speaker A:If you are the 200 guy, why are you going and spending 20 grand the next time you know how to do this for 200?
Speaker C:Because you want to see how the other half lives so that you can.
Speaker B:Watch it for free.
Speaker A:Yeah, you can see it for free.
Speaker B:You see that?
Speaker B:For free.
Speaker D:It goes back to what I said before, though, even about, you know, them and they keep having children or whatever.
Speaker D:They don't see a problem with it.
Speaker D:They are people who are like, oh, you know, we're low income and there's, there's no.
Speaker D:It's about them.
Speaker D:It's not about their kids at all.
Speaker D:And that's always my, My rub with them.
Speaker D:You know, they are happy living in slop and, like, foolishness, you know, them kids.
Speaker D:So I, I just find that odd.
Speaker D:And I find it odd that, like, we love them, we, we exalt the, the Weasleys, but they just don't seem to be really responsible.
Speaker B:No, no, I don't love them for their fiscal responsibilities.
Speaker B:They.
Speaker B:I love them for all their other wonderful qualities.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker D:That's interesting.
Speaker A:Oh, that's interesting.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:I hear you.
Speaker A:I do not agree.
Speaker A:This is a.
Speaker A:I, I just.
Speaker A:I just can't believe they, they were gifted 700 galleons.
Speaker A:And we got Rod a new wand and that was it.
Speaker D:Do we think Arthur actually won the lottery or was somebody like, hey, we.
Speaker A:Already talked.
Speaker C:About the corruption.
Speaker B:I think there's corruption.
Speaker B:But I also think J.K.
Speaker B:rowling got tired of writing about poor people.
Speaker B:So he gave.
Speaker B:She gave him some money so she could move on.
Speaker B:I mean, she had to figure out a way for Ron to get a new wand.
Speaker B:And like, it had to be a way that would make sure he couldn't have gotten it before.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:Because like, if they could have just socked away seven galleons to give Ron a new wand, they could have done that before.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:So she had to create the sweepstakes so he can get his new one.
Speaker D:Immediately pour the next book because Ron has to wear his old aunt robes to the Yule ball.
Speaker B:So basically, irreverent, responsible.
Speaker B:We already talked.
Speaker B:We already said it.
Speaker C:Hate the sin, love the sinner.
Speaker C:That's how people feel about the Weasleys, right?
Speaker D:Very possible.
Speaker D:Very possible.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker D:They're just, you know, reading it as an adult.
Speaker D:You're just like, this is some.
Speaker D:Like, what are we?
Speaker D:Yeah, damn.
Speaker D:They just living by the seat of.
Speaker D:They draw.
Speaker B:700 galleons, man.
Speaker B:You take some of it, you put it somewhere that bears interest, you have a little bit of fun because, you know, sometimes you want to have some fun with the family and then you take care of your bills.
Speaker A:1100 Galleons is life changing money for the Weasleys.
Speaker D:Okay, so what do we think that that was the equivalent to like, like $7,000 or like $700,000?
Speaker B:I don't know the exchange rate and I kind of want to look that up.
Speaker B:CJ.
Speaker B:I was gonna say CJ.
Speaker B:CJ got us.
Speaker B:He usually looks these things up.
Speaker B:Seventy thousand.
Speaker A: n, the pound exchange rate in: Speaker C:So as of right now, the estimate is about $7.35 a galleon to a US dollar to a euro.
Speaker C:It's five hundred and ninety.
Speaker A:They're in Britain though, so it's a pound.
Speaker D:So they only got like $5,000.
Speaker D:I guess that's not life changing.
Speaker A:My guy had a broken wand for a year.
Speaker A:When I say life change, I'm not saying that they're going to get rich.
Speaker B:That just tells me that they could have bought him another wand for 50 bucks and they didn't have it.
Speaker B:Exactly.
Speaker D:Exactly.
Speaker C:So the wand is probably the most important thing in the magical world.
Speaker C:And you don't got 50.
Speaker B:And they were like, it $50, like.
Speaker D:And went to Egypt for Christmas.
Speaker D:Really?
Speaker D:Screw you and your wand, my guy.
Speaker B:So they just.
Speaker B:They just don't like Ron.
Speaker B:I think it's time for us to realize that Molly and Arthur cannot stand Ron Weasley.
Speaker B:They don't like him.
Speaker D:They said, all you do is play chess.
Speaker D:Huh?
Speaker D:That's all he got.
Speaker C:He ain't.
Speaker C:They know what we know.
Speaker D:You know what they don't tell us in book two?
Speaker D:Does Jenny get a new wand before she goes to school?
Speaker B:I think she does.
Speaker B:I think they get Jenny a new.
Speaker A:One because Jenny being the only girl, I think Jenny gets new everything.
Speaker B:Jenny gets knew everything.
Speaker C:I agree with that.
Speaker A:The hand me down with Ron.
Speaker C:Yeah, with Ron, they bought two or three sets of all the boy stuff.
Speaker C:Why do they need to buy more boy stuff?
Speaker C:But they have no girl stuff, right?
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And they kept having kids to get a girl.
Speaker B:So, yes, I'm pretty sure Jenny gets all the new things.
Speaker B:So they said.
Speaker D:Or were they just being irresponsible like usual?
Speaker B:No, they said.
Speaker B:I think they say, maybe not this book, but the next couple books that Molly wanted a girl.
Speaker B:So they kept going.
Speaker B:And here they are with Jenny.
Speaker A:Kept going.
Speaker B:And here they are and going and going.
Speaker B:And now we have Jenny.
Speaker C:Yeah, they.
Speaker C:They had to go make an entire team to play Quidditch.
Speaker C:But they got it done.
Speaker A:So Jenna gets everything new.
Speaker A:Ronaldo, the hand me downs.
Speaker A:That was about £3,500.
Speaker A:That would have been three grand.
Speaker A:Three grand in pounds.
Speaker A:They're not buying them all out.
Speaker D:But they could have put a thousand up.
Speaker B:Yeah, they could have put a thousand away and.
Speaker B:And made it work.
Speaker B:They could have come with some of these bills.
Speaker A:Arthur still get a paycheck.
Speaker A:Come on.
Speaker A:Y'all gotta do better.
Speaker A:But listen, listen.
Speaker A:Now, it's up to y'all.
Speaker A:It's up to y'all the peoples that are listening.
Speaker A:Do y'all think that the Weasleys are just irresponsible with their money?
Speaker A:Do you think Harry's doing the right thing being.
Speaker A:Being rich and being so tightwashed?
Speaker A:You let us know in the.
Speaker A:In the comments.
Speaker A:You let us know on Twitter or X.
Speaker A:I should say Instagram at Justiceford or on our Facebook page.
Speaker A:And we'll announce the results on the Future Show.
Speaker A:You guys can find cj.
Speaker A:Cj, where can I find you?
Speaker C:Find me at keyboard sarcasm on all socials.
Speaker A:Perfect.
Speaker A:Shantae, where can they find you?
Speaker B:I am the villain, Shantae, and I'm on Instagram.
Speaker B:And I actually posted something the other day.
Speaker A:And Natasha, where can they find you?
Speaker D:I am on Instagram as well.
Speaker D:Hermionedanger.
Speaker A:Perfect.
Speaker A:You can find me at KG Fury on all social media platforms.
Speaker A:Join us next when we're talking about chapters, I believe, 5 through 8.
Speaker A:5 and 6 and 7.
Speaker A:Maybe we getting into him going to school through 7.
Speaker A:We get into Harry going to school because it's about that time to start the new year.
Speaker A:And he ain't going to Hogsmeade because we found that out.
Speaker B:It's not happening here.
Speaker D:Nobody signed that goddamn paper.
Speaker B:Hey, he tried his best, okay?
Speaker B:He tried.
Speaker A:Props to Harry in these chapters, who he was putting in the work the best he could get.
Speaker D:Singular focus.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Thank y'all for joining us.
Speaker A:Course adjourn.
Speaker A:Good night.
